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John Lewis's avatar

Hi Stephen,

Contrary to what you think, liturgy is not “the northstar of theology.” It is an expression of the theology of the Church. The theology comes first.

Changes to the Roman liturgy followed changes in theology that had already been infallibly condemned by the Church. They aren’t merely liturgical abuses but expressions of a religion the tenants of which have been condemned by the Catholic Church.

Such false doctrines don’t come from the Church nor could they have come from men who were visible members in her. These men have chosen their own way that is not hers and in doing so rejected and separated themselves from her.

A singular focus on the liturgy ignores far more important theological issues that are at the root of the present crisis of faith.

I suggest that you listen to Louie Verrecchio’s podcast series on the crisis in the Church as it provides a good introduction to the crisis and how what we see in reality fits in with what the Catholic Church teaches about herself. I’ve republished it on my substack with permission. Start with season 2 “Vatican II revisited.”

Stephen Keeler's avatar

So what is your understanding of it? And you are sure it's nowhere or ever been prayed, that Pope's can't be heretical?

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