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Martin Fegan's avatar

All the more reason to avoid the innovators when seeking the sacraments. Avoiding also those ministers who are poorly catechised themselves and have received a less than adequate theological formation which would mean nearly all novus ordo formed ministers. This surely is a proximate matter of salvation/damnatiin otherwise the need for conditional baptism as a remedy wouldn't be necessary but merely an optional extra if one so desired. Knowing what the Church teaches concerning this sacrament and what it effects would it not be a grave error to suggest that it's necessity is relative. Even the CCC teaches that the. Church knows no other means by which a person can be incorpated into the Mystical Body of Christ absent sacramental baptism. God indeed in His mercy may have another means to sanctify the unbaptisef but this is not known by the Church.

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Darrell Goodliffe's avatar

My Anglican Baptism was 10 years ago and ill be the first one to confess my memory is not great. I know the water was only poured once so the top one definitely applies. The others, as I recall, do not.

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