Hardly traditional. In order to escape the necessary conclusion that these men could not have been popes because it would be against the Indefectibility of the Roman See, he is adopting the errors of the Gallicans, attempting to separate the "Sedes" (the Supreme See) from the "Sedens" (the person seated), just as Gallican theologians claimed that it doesn't matter if one or a few Roman Pontiffs fail in the Faith because the rest of the line remains faithful - making the Roman See *sometimes* or *for the most part* indefectible, which is the same as saying that it is not, since an inability to fail means that something can never fail, and since each Roman Pontiff represents and has the full authority of the See, so that his official Papal teachings are the teachings of that See (see here: https://www.wmreview.org/p/palmieri-xxx-i and https://www.wmreview.org/p/palmieri-xxx-ii).
Abp. Viganò has simply crossed over from one system of errors (Conciliar Modernism) to another (Gallicanism). I had hoped that he would adopt the sedevacantist conclusion, but for some time his statements were moving towards R&R, and now finally openly advocating it (including the tired R&R invocation of the right to resist a Pope), and condemning sedevacantism. I find it incredible that someone who has learned so much about the Faith can call a person like Prevost "Holy Father".
I appreciated this very much. Thank you. I appreciated the discussion of a pope writing as a private doctor, which calls to mind "Love and Responsibility" by Karol Wojtyla. That book has been twisted from a private work to "papal magisterium", and even Amazon and Wikipedia attribute the book to JPII.
Interesting. Prosper Lambertini's book on the Canonisation of Saints was published, during his reign, under his papal name (Benedict XIV), so I guess there is some precedent for that – but not the magisterial aspect that you mention.
DO CATHOLICS REALLY NOT CARE ABOUT GOD BEING INSULTED AND MOCKED?
One example for all...
From AI: (it's also in Latin or on video)
1. Official Canonization Formula (Quote)
This text represents the legally binding statement by which Pope Francis canonized John Paul II on April 27, 2014. to the list of saints:
“FOR THE HONOR OF THE HOLY AND INDIVIDUABLE TRINITY, FOR THE ADVANTAGES OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND THE FLOWERING OF THE CHRISTIAN LIFE, BY THE AUTHORITY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL, AND BY OUR AUTHORITY: AFTER MATURE CONSIDERATION and after repeated prayers for God’s help, after hearing the opinion of many of our brother cardinals and bishops, WE DECLARE AND DEFINE BLESSED JOHN XXIII. AND JOHN PAUL II. AS SAINTS. We enter them in the list of saints, AND ORDER THAT THEY SHALL BE PIETY-VENERATE AMONG THE SAINTS IN THE WHOLE CHURCH.
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Here, imagine the world-famous picture of "John Paul II kissing the Quran....
And then google it or use AI to FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT the Quran SAYS about the Holy Trinity, the Divinity and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, about the Virgin Mary, about Christians..!!!
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IS NOT THIS FORMULA ALONE, in connection with these names (and with the facts stated), LIES? IS IT NOT AN UNHEARD OF INJURY TO THE MOST HOLY TRINITY? IS IT NOT LEADING HUMAN SOULS TO THE ERROR AND TO PERISHMENT WHEN IT PRESENTS TO THEM AS A MODEL OF THE SACREDNESS OF CHRISTIAN LIFE PERSONS WHO HAVE OBVIOUSLY COMMITTED MANY HERETIC ACTS, PROCLAIMED AND TEACHED HERESIES CONDEMNED BY THE CHURCH, WITHOUT HESITATING ANY ADMONITION? AND HE WHO DECLARED THAT FORMULA ALSO DECLARED THAT IT WAS BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND WITH A CLAIM TO INFALLIBILITY, HE DECIDED THAT THEY SHOULD BE PIETYFULLY WORSHIPPED AMONG THE SAINTS IN THE WHOLE CHURCH!!!!?
Many strive to bring about this unity, even regarding the New Testament order established by our Lord Jesus Christ. They proceed from the assumption that nations holding diverse religious views can easily agree on professing a few doctrines as a common foundation for religious life.
To this end, they organize congresses, assemblies, and conferences, inviting to them—without distinction—people from the widest circles for discussion: pagans of every stripe, Christians, and even unfortunate apostates and obstinate deniers of the divinity of Jesus Christ and His divine mission. CATHOLICS CERTAINLY CANNOT APPROVE OF SUCH ATTEMPS which stem from the erroneous doctrine that all religions are more or less equally praiseworthy and good... Adherents of such a theory are not merely victims of deception and error; they also reject the true religion, distort its concept, and unwittingly succumb to naturalism and atheism. It follows clearly from this that all who unreservedly approve of such theories and attempts
COMPLETELY RENOUNCE THE RELIGION REVEALED BY GOD.
In these endeavors to foster Christian unity, many allow themselves to be misled by certain specious arguments. ...Yet beneath these seductive flatteries and smooth words lies a grave error that undermines the foundations of the Catholic faith.
Our office and conscience lay upon Us the duty to ensure that Christ’s flock is not led astray by dangerous illusions; therefore, Venerable Brethren,
WE DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS GREAT DANGER,
...so that it may be clear to Catholics how they ought to judge the question of the corporate union of all Christians into a single body, and what stance they should adopt regarding it.
God, the Creator of the universe... Himself willed to instruct man regarding the duties of rational beings toward their Creator. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1). It is therefore clear that
THERE IS NO OTHER TRUE RELIGION EXCEPT THAT WHICH IS BUILT UPON THE REVEALED WORD OF GOD.
This revelation, given at the beginning and continued under the Old Covenant, was brought to fulfillment by Jesus Christ through the New Covenant. SINCE GOD HAS SPOKEN—and history bears witness that He has indeed spoken—IT IS MAN'S CLEAR DUTY TO BELIEVE UNCONDITIONALLY IN THE GOD WHO HAS THUS REVEALED HIMSELF, AND TO SUBMIT TO HIS COMMAND. However, to make this possible, the only-begotten Son of God founded His Church on earth. All who still consider themselves Christians must surely admit that Christ founded a Church—specifically, a *single* Church. Yet opinions differ regarding the qualities this Church must possess. Many, for instance, deny that the Church of Christ must be visible—that is, that the community of believers must appear as one, with all believers united in the same doctrine and under a single teaching and pastoral authority. By the visibility of the Church, they understand merely a sort of union comprising multiple communities, even though these communities hold conflicting doctrines.
However, Christ the Lord FOUNDED HIS CHURCH
AS A PERFECT SOCIETY,
perceptible to the senses by its very nature, so that it might continue the work of redemption under the leadership of a single supreme head (Mt 16:18; Lk 22:32; Jn 21:15–17), through the LIVING WORD OF TEACHING (Mk 1:15) and the administration of the sacraments—those fountains of Divine grace (Jn 3:5; 6:48–49; 20:20; Mt 18:18, etc.).
IT WAS ENTRUSTED WITH THE TASK OF LEADING ALL PEOPLE OF THE WHOLE WORLD AND OF ALL AGES TO ETERNAL SALVATION.
"Go and TEACH ALL NATIONS." (Mt 18:19) Could the Church lose the strength to fulfill this task when Christ stands by its side—He who solemnly promised: "BEHOLD, I AM WITH YOU UNTIL THE END OF THE AGE" (Mt 28:20)? The Church of Christ, therefore, MUST EXIST NOT ONLY TODAY, TOMORROW, AND CONTINUOUSLY, BUT MUST EXIST JUST AS IT EXISTED IN APOSTOLIC TIMES—unless we are to accept the absurdity that Christ could not carry out His will, or that He was mistaken when He declared that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church (Mt 16:18).
And now, a FALSE VIEW can be REJECTED. The proponents of this movement quote, almost incessantly, the words "that they all may be one" and "there shall be one flock and one shepherd" (John 17:21; 10:16).
HOWEVER, THEY INTERPRET THESE WORDS AS MERELY A WISH AND A PLEA OF THE SAVIOR THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FULFILLED. THEY CLAIM THAT UNITY OF FAITH AND GOVERNMENT—THAT MARK OF THE TRUE AND ONLY CHURCH OF CHRIST—HAS NEVER EXISTED AND DOES NOT EXIST EVEN NOW. We may therefore desire it and—given the goodwill of the faithful—perhaps one day attain it; for the time being, however, it remains a mere ideal. It is said that the Church is divided by nature, consisting of many churches or individual communities that remain separated—agreeing on certain points of doctrine while contradicting one another on others. The Church was united, at most, from the apostolic age up to the first ecumenical councils.
Consequently, they further conclude that the old controversies and differences of opinion—which have divided Christendom to this day—must be set aside; instead, a single common standard of faith must be forged from the remaining points of doctrine, a confession in which all can find common ground and feel themselves to be brothers. Only in this way—united by a common bond—will many churches and societies be able to vigorously and successfully halt the advance of unbelief...
Among them, one finds some who acknowledge a certain honorary primacy and limited authority in the Roman Pontiff—NOT BY DIVINE RIGHT, however, but as a result of the consent and agreement of the faithful. Some even wish to make the Roman Pontiff a sort of president over their mixed assemblies, gathered from every quarter.
Yet, among all the non-Catholics who speak so much of Christian fellowship, not one considers submitting to the authority of the Vicar of Jesus Christ and heeding his teaching.
For the time being, they declare a willingness to negotiate with the Roman Church, but on an equal footing—as equals with equals. There is no doubt, however, that if they were permitted to negotiate in this manner, they would do so with the intention of reaching an agreement that would allow them to retain the very views that cause them to wander outside the one flock of Jesus Christ.
It is clear that, under these circumstances, the Holy See CANNOT IN ANY WAY PARRICIPATE IN THESE CONFERENCES.
For the same reasons, Catholics cannot participate in or support such undertakings. Were they to do so, they would be acknowledging a false Christian religion, entirely different from the one Church of Jesus Christ. Can we tolerate the Truth—and indeed, the Truth revealed by God—becoming a subject of negotiation? That would be a supremely sinful course of action.
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THE ONLY ISSUE AT STAKE HERE IS THE DEFENCE OF REVEALED TRUTH.
Jesus Christ sent His apostles into the whole world TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL NATIONS, AND—SO THAT THEY MIGHT NEVER FALL INTO ERROR—HE GAVE THEM THE HOLY SPIRIT AS THE TEACHER of all Truth (John 16:13). COULD THIS APOSTOLIC TEACHING HAVE DRIED UP, OR COULD IT EVER HAVE BECOME OBSCURED IN THE CHURCH, WHEN IT IS, AFTER ALL, GUIDED AND PRESERVED BY GOD HIMSELF?
And since our Redeemer clearly stated that THE GOSPEL IS NOT INTENDED MERELY FOR THE APOSTOLIC AGE BUT FOR ALL FUTURE AGES, could the object of faith have become so obscured and uncertain over time that today one must tolerate mutually contradictory opinions? If this were true, one would also have to say that the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles, HIS CONTINUED PRESENCE IN THE CHURCH, and the Savior’s preaching had long ago lost their power and utility.
BUT TO ASSERT SUCH A THING WOULD BE
BLASPHEMY.
Furthermore, it would not have presented the teaching of the Gospel clearly and intact, nor would it have been protected from all danger of error.
Therefore, one strays far from the Truth if, while acknowledging the existence of the treasure of Truth in this world, one believes that this truth must be sought through such arduous study and disputation that a human lifetime would scarcely suffice to find and master it. As if the BENEVOLENT GOD HAD SPOKEN THROUGH THE MOUTHS OF HIS PROPHETS AND HIS ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON only so that a mere few—and only in advanced age—might come to know the truth He revealed, rather than SO THAT THE MORAL TEACHING HE IMPARTS TO THE PEOPLE MIGHT SERVE AS THEIR GUIDING STAR THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. Christians may well be motivated in their efforts toward church unity by a noble desire to foster love among believers.
BUT HOW IS LOVE POSSIBLE AT THE EXPENSE OF FAITH?
For we all know that it was John—the Apostle of Love, whose Gospel serves as a REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY OF THE MOST SACRED HEART OF JESUS and who constantly instilled in his disciples the new commandment to "love one another"—who strictly forbade maintaining ties with those who did not profess the full and uncorrupted teaching of Christ. "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or offer him a greeting." (2 Jan 11)
Since love rests upon the foundation of uncorrupted and sincere faith, Christ's disciples must be united with one another by the bond of the unity of faith.
How, then, is it even possible to conceive of a Christian union whose members would retain their own personal views—even regarding matters of faith—that contradict the views of others? For instance, if some were to regard Sacred Tradition as a true source of faith, while others denied its validity? Or what if some regarded the ecclesiastical hierarchy of bishops, priests, and deacons as an institution established by God, while others claimed that the hierarchy was introduced only gradually in response to local needs and the requirements of the times? What if some worshipped Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar—believing Him to be truly present there through the wondrous change of bread and wine known as transubstantiation—while others maintained that Christ is present there only through faith or as a sign and by the power of the sacrament? What if some regarded the Eucharist as both a sacrament and a sacrifice, while others saw in it merely a remembrance of the Lord’s Last Supper and a memorial of Him? What if some considered it good and conducive to salvation to invoke the saints reigning with Christ—above all, the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary—and to venerate their images, while others rejected this practice as incompatible with the reverence due to the Mediator between God and mankind (cf. 1 Tim. 2:5), Jesus Christ? It is impossible to conceive how the path to Church unity could be paved amidst this confusion of opinions, for such unity can arise only from a single teaching authority, a single rule of faith, and a single faith in Christ.
Furthermore, in matters of faith, it is entirely inappropriate to distinguish between so-called "fundamental" and "non-fundamental" points of doctrine—as if the former had to be accepted by all, while acceptance of the latter was left to the free judgment of the faithful. For the formal motive of the supernatural virtue of faith is the authority of the revealing God, which admits of no such distinction.
Therefore, true disciples of Christ accept with equal faith the mystery of the Most Holy Trinity and the article of faith concerning the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God, and they believe in the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ just as they do in papal infallibility, as defined at the First Vatican Council. Although these truths were solemnly defined at different times—some even recently—they must all be accepted equally and faithfully. For did not God reveal them all? The Teaching Office of the Church, established on this earth by divine decree
so that revealed truths might be preserved forever unchanged and be easily and securely known by people,
is indeed exercised daily by the Pope and the bishops united with him. However, when it becomes necessary to take more effective action against the attacks of heretics, or to explain certain points of doctrine to the faithful more clearly and deeply, then it is the duty of the Church's Teaching Office to proceed to a solemn definition of that doctrine. By this extraordinary exercise of the teaching office, NOTHING NEW IS INVENTED, NOR IS ANYTHING NEW ADDED TO THE SUM OF TRUTHS—contained at least implicitly—within the treasury of Revelation entrusted to the Church by God. Rather, TRUTHS ARE MERELY CLARIFIED that may have hitherto seemed unclear to many, or truths are proposed for belief that were previously challenged by many.
Thus it is clear, Venerable Brethren, why the APOSTOLIC SEE HAS NEVER ALLOWED THE FAITHFUL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GATHERINGS OF NON-CATHOLICS. FOR THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS CANNOT BE ACHIEVED IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN BY STRIVING FOR THE RETURN OF DISSIDENTS TO THE ONE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, FROM WHICH THESE UNFORTUNATE SOULS ONCE FELL AWAY. To the one, true Church of Christ—we say—which is visible to all and which, ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF ITS FOUNDER, WILL REMAIN EXACTLY AS HE ESTABLISHED IT FOR THE SALVATION OF ALL.
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And this holy martyr rightly marvels at how it is possible to believe that “this unity, which is grounded in the immutability of God and bound up with heavenly mysteries, could be torn and shattered within the Church itself by the discord of divided men.” Since, therefore,
THE MYSTICAL BRIDE OF CHRIST HAS NEVER BEENTAINTED THROUGHOUT THE AGES, NOR
COULD SHE EVER BE. St. Cyprian himself bears witness to this when he writes:
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“THE BRIDE OF CHRIST CANNOT BE DEFILED. SHE IS UNCORRUPTED AND PURE.
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She knows but one home and guards the sanctity of a single chamber with chaste discipline” (*On the Unity of the Catholic Church*, 6, 11).
And this holy martyr rightly marvels at HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO BELIEVE THAT “THIS UNITY, WHICH IS FOUNDED ON DIVINE IMMUTABILITY AND BOUND TO HEAVENLY MYSTERIES, COULD BE TORN ASUNDER AND SHATTERED WITHIN THE CHURCH ITSELF BY THE DISCORD OF DIVIDED MEN.” Since, therefore,
THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST IS ONE
the Mystical Body of Christ is one
(1 Cor 12:12), and since it is “joined and knit together” (Eph 4:16) just like His physical body, it is foolish to say that this Mystical Body can consist of severed and separated members.
Whoever, then, is not united with this Mystical Body is not a member of it and is not united with the Head, who is Christ. No one remains within this one Church of Christ who does not obediently submit to the authority of Peter and his legitimate successors, and who does not thereby acknowledge their power.
Let the prodigal sons, then, return to their common Father, who will embrace them with love, no longer remembering the wrongs they once committed against the Apostolic See.
If they wish—as they constantly say—to be reunited with Us and with Our own, why do they not hasten to return to the Church, to the "Mother and Teacher of all who believe in Christ"? (Fourth Lateran Council, c. 5.)
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"ONLY THE CATHOLICS CHURCH PRESERVES TRUE WORSHIP. She is the fountain of truth, the home of faith, and the temple of God."
Whoever does not enter her, or whoever leaves her, remains far from the hope of life and salvation. Let no one obstinately attempt to deceive himself. It is a matter of life and salvation. “Whoever does not grasp it eagerly and carefully, it will slip away from him and be extinguished” (Divin. Instit. 4:30, 11–12).
Let the separated sons, therefore, turn to the Apostolic See established in this city—which the Princes of the Apostles, Peter and Paul, consecrated with their blood—for here is the “root and mother of the Catholic Church” (St. Cyprian – Ep. 48 ad Cornelium, 3). NOT WITH THE ASSUMPTION OR HOPE THAT THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, THE “PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF TRUTH” (1 Tim 3:15), WILL ABANDON THE PURITY OF THE FAITH AND TOLERATE THEIR ERRORS,
BUT RATHER THAT THEY MAY ENTRUST THEMSELVES TO HER TEACHING AUTHORITY AND GUIDANCE.
MAY THE DIVINE REDEEMER, “WHO DESIRES ALL MEN TO BE SAVED AND TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH” (1 Tim 2:4), HEAR OUR CEASELESS PRAYERS AND CALL ALL THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY BACK TO THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH. In this most important matter, we turn to the Most Blessed Mother of Divine Grace ❤️, the Conqueror of all heresies, the Help of Christians, and we call upon her to hasten, through her intercession, the day when all shall hear the voice of her Divine Son, "keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" (Eph. 4:3).
You know, Venerable Brethren, how deeply We desire this.
Let all Our sons know of this—not only Catholics, but also those children separated from Us. If they humbly pray for heavenly enlightenment, they will undoubtedly recognize the one true Church of Christ and enter it, united with Us in perfect charity.
Given at Rome, at St. Peter’s, on the 6th of January, 1928, the Feast of the Manifestation of Christ our Lord, in the sixth year of Our pontificate.
(it is the same in all (truly) Catholic books, catechisms, sermons, agrees with the Holy Scriptures...Here is a short excerpt from the book WHAT IS THE CHURCH by Dr. Josef Pospíšil
(Book II, Chapter I On the Members of the Holy Church)
...how can the gates of hell overpower it
and refute it, when Christ, God and man, who founded it, IS HIMSELF PRESENT IN IT, as the Holy Apostles and their successors in them promised
with the words: "AND, LEARN, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD."
The same truth also follows from the words with which the Divine
Savior promised st. apostles, that HE WILL PRAY THE FATHER, AND THAT HE WILL GIVE THEM ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY REMAIN WITH THEM FOREVER.
If the Holy Spirit remains with the holy apostles and their successors forever, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE TO THINK THAT THE CHURCH, CONSTANTLY PROTECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, COULD EITHER COMPLETELY EXTINCT OR GO WRONG IN SOMETHING THAT BELONGS TO ITS CONSTITUTION GIVEN TO IT BY CHRIST, OR WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE DIVINE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, WHICH IT IS TO PROCLAIM TO THE HUMAN GENERATION UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD.
.Any such possibility is COMPLETELY EXCLUDED, BECAUSE IT CONTRARY TO THE VERY DIVINE CHARACTERISTICS. For GOD IS COMPLETELY FAITHFUL AND BY HIS OMNIKNOWLEDGE HE ALSO KNOWS HOW TO FULFILL THESE PROMISES, AND HE ALSO HAS UNLIMITED POWER, DESPITE ALL EVIL AND HUMAN EVIL, TO FULFILL THEM.....
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Another quote from the book:
Since the Church had from its origin and will have until the end of the world ALWAYS ONE AND THE SAME PURPOSE, THE ETERNAL SALVATION OF MANKIND, IT CANNOT BE SUBJECTED TO ANY ESSENTIAL CHANGE, ergo it must be indefeatable (indefeetibilis). If it did not last until the end of the world or if it changed in some essential thing, then it would no longer be capable of the purpose for which Christ founded it and
THE BLAME WOULD NOT FALL ON HER, BUT ON HER FOUNDER, WHICH IS ONLY TO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED
DO CATHOLICS REALLY NOT CARE HOW GOD IS INSULTED AND MOCKED?
Every day more blasphemy against God! The Mystical Body of Christ torn to shreds, where else can it go?
It would probably be best for me to stop reading (and listening to) all the possible articles on the topic of the Church on the Internet. I really find it hard to listen to it!
Every day more and more malice and blasphemy against God. And most importantly, what does it solve? How much more? What else must happen?
And why are even those who love the Lord Jesus, the Holy Trinity, the Virgin Mary, and the entire Catholic Church, so divided, when the LORD JESUS WANTED (WANTED) that we all BE ONE!
WHO TAKES NOTE OF THIS?
How can we hope for any solution to the church crisis like this... ARE WE EFFORTLESSLY SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH?
The truth, which is the ONLY one?
That's probably the problem everyone thinks they have...
But what do we base it on?
ON THE WORD OF GOD? ON THE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC. CHURCH? And are we SURE of that?
PLEASE read what I have in my heart. We are to form the Mystical Body of Christ ( , we are to be grafted onto it...WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING.
And we are to help each other...to benefit the Church with what we have. So I want to tell you one thing, it is from the depths of my soul and heart and I think it is important:
WE MUST OBEY THE WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS and the TEACHINGS OF THE HOLY CHURCH, which He founded and for which He Himself guaranteed! WE MUST TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY!
Luke 21:33
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
John 14:23-24
Jesus answered him, “Whoever loves me will keep my words, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me will not keep my words. And the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father’s who sent me.
Someone thinks: "but not that seriously" (I hear this often)
But the LORD JESUS himself says:
"WHOEVER LOVES ME WILL KEEP MY
WORDS."
IF WE LOVE HIM,♥️
I think we should "hang" on Jesus' lips....AND TAKE ALL HIS WORDS SERIOUSLY.
In order to fulfill them, we must first KNOW them, so we should STRIVE to know the Word of God - in the Holy Scriptures in accordance with the tradition of the Church and also in the TEACHING OF THE CHURCH.
And then TRY to fulfill it with no less EFFORT.
So, once again:
If once the HOLY CHURCH taught something, then TODAY SHE CANNOT TEACH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, OR EVEN CONTRARY!
AND WE CANNOT COVER OUR EARS AND PRETEND NOT TO HEAR
....TRUTHS THAT DO NOT SUIT US....
And I will say this with a specific example:
HOW CAN CATHOLICS, DESPITE ALL, IN THE EYES OF THE SHOCK HERESY AND BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD AND THUS ALSO THE SEDUCE AND DRAG DOWN OF A HUGE NUMBER OF SOULS TO ETERNAL DAMNATION,
HOW CAN THEY AGREE WITH
THAT THIS MAN
IS THE POPE
WHEN ACCORDING TO THE TEACHING OF THE CHURCH AND THE WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF, WHO PROMISED TO THE APOSTLES THAT HE WOULD BE WITH THEM "ALL DAYS UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD" AND THAT HE WOULD SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, TO THE CHURCH, AND WHEN THE CHURCH HAS ALWAYS TEACHED THE WHOLE AND UNCHANGABLE TRUTH, INCLUDING THAT THE CHURCH'S MAGISTRATE MUST PRESERVE AND TRANSMIT ONLY THE TRUTH (see below)
HOW CAN WE NOT BELIEVE THIS TEACHING TODAY???
Just because we don't see a way out of some, albeit very serious and complicated situation?
By not believing it, WE DENY OUR OWN FAITH!!! DO YOU REALIZE THAT???
The phrase “Come out of Babylon, my people” (or “Come out of Babylon”) is a deeply rooted biblical phrase that appears in several key places in Scripture.
In its figurative sense, it is a call to leave sin, the corrupt world, or false religious systems and return to pure faith and God.
Where is this call found in the Bible?
Revelation 18:4: This is the most famous passage in the New Testament. John writes: “And I heard another voice from heaven say, ‘Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.’” In this context, “Babylon” represents a harlot and symbolizes the fallen, ungodly world system at the end of time.
Jeremiah 51:45 (and also 51:6): An Old Testament call to the Jews in Babylonian captivity: “Go out of her, my people, and save yourselves every one from the fierce anger of the Lord!” The prophet urged them to physically and spiritually leave Babylon, which was awaiting judgment.
Isaiah 48:20: A similar joyful call to leave captivity: “Go out of Babylon, flee from the Chaldeans! With a voice of joy proclaim…”
What is the meaning of this phrase today?
In Christian theology and preaching, these words are often used as a metaphor for:
Separating from the moral decay of society.
Abandoning false teachings or corrupt church structures.
Personal repentance and a radical decision to live a holy life
Everyone must see what today's "Rome" has become!
Many of you write about it almost EVERY DAY...
Why is it so difficult to look into history and LEARN FROM MISTAKES?
That, I believe, is the first step in the right direction, because
"Without faith it is impossible to please God."
(Hebrews 11:6)
According to the teachings of the Church, faith is the first condition for salvation
DOESN'T THE CHURCH HERSELF JUDGE HIM BY ITS TEACHINGS?
Simply ABSOLUTE EXCLUSION OF ERROR!
So when the Church teaches something, the Word of God says something
- WHO DARE TO CLAIM SOMETHING ELSE?
I think we have woven a whip for ourselves, dug a hole for ourselves, cut off a branch - call it what we want... WE HAVE LOST THE TRUE CATHOLIC FAITH, we have stopped believing EVERYTHING that the Church teaches!
This is where the terrible confusion and chaos and the resulting DISUNITY come from...everyone thinks and claims something different BECAUSE WE DO NOT HOLD TO WHAT WAS PROMISED AND BELIEVED FROM THE BEGINNING
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I know, you will probably delete me, maybe I have violated some of the terms of comments... I apologize to you..
I guess I'm also done reading about all the insults to God, the Church....😓🙏💔
But I would like to ask, based on the binding teaching of the Catholic Church:
IS IT AT ALL POSSIBLE FOR THE MAGISTRATE OF THE CHURCH TO PRESENT TO ME FOR BELIEVE SUCH THINGS AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS (from the documents of the Second Vatican Council - NOSTRA AETATE, chapters 2 and 3, and then also in the (new "catechisms"):
...,,The Catholic Church does not reject anything that is TRUE AND HOLY IN THESE (non-Catholic) RELIGIONS.....AFTER ALL THEY ARE OFTEN A REFLECTION OF THE TRUTH WHICH ENLIGHTENS ALL PEOPLE...
ISLAM (NOSTRA AETATE)
The Church also looks with RESPECT at
MUSLIMS WHO WORSHIP THE ONE GOD,
TO THE LIVING AND PERSON, EXISTING, MERCIFUL AND ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, WHO SPOKE
JESUS, *THOUGH* THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE AS GOD, but they WORSHIP as a PROPHET and HONOR his virgin mother Mary and sometimes even PRAYERFULLY call upon her (!)
( I understand that these people are probably not to blame for this, if they were taught this way from childhood, but also according to this there is no reason to preach the gospel to them...(?) * THOUGH - is that just some trifle?!
I definitely do not want to encourage anyone to hate any people who have a different faith. The Catholic Church teaches us that we should hate sin, but love sinners and that we should preach the gospel!
If the Pope or clergy are wrong in what they are telling people , we have the right to disagree with them.
Need to read the article a bit more carefully to see how that statement can be true and false in different respects.
I believe Abp. Viganò answers this best by giving us the traditional distinction:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-abp-vigano-the-catholic-church-is-alive-the-synodal-church-is-a-corpse/
Hardly traditional. In order to escape the necessary conclusion that these men could not have been popes because it would be against the Indefectibility of the Roman See, he is adopting the errors of the Gallicans, attempting to separate the "Sedes" (the Supreme See) from the "Sedens" (the person seated), just as Gallican theologians claimed that it doesn't matter if one or a few Roman Pontiffs fail in the Faith because the rest of the line remains faithful - making the Roman See *sometimes* or *for the most part* indefectible, which is the same as saying that it is not, since an inability to fail means that something can never fail, and since each Roman Pontiff represents and has the full authority of the See, so that his official Papal teachings are the teachings of that See (see here: https://www.wmreview.org/p/palmieri-xxx-i and https://www.wmreview.org/p/palmieri-xxx-ii).
Abp. Viganò has simply crossed over from one system of errors (Conciliar Modernism) to another (Gallicanism). I had hoped that he would adopt the sedevacantist conclusion, but for some time his statements were moving towards R&R, and now finally openly advocating it (including the tired R&R invocation of the right to resist a Pope), and condemning sedevacantism. I find it incredible that someone who has learned so much about the Faith can call a person like Prevost "Holy Father".
I appreciated this very much. Thank you. I appreciated the discussion of a pope writing as a private doctor, which calls to mind "Love and Responsibility" by Karol Wojtyla. That book has been twisted from a private work to "papal magisterium", and even Amazon and Wikipedia attribute the book to JPII.
Interesting. Prosper Lambertini's book on the Canonisation of Saints was published, during his reign, under his papal name (Benedict XIV), so I guess there is some precedent for that – but not the magisterial aspect that you mention.
Follow the new V2 kirk and its 'pope', or adhere to Christ in His promise to Peter. Resistance may be polite or uncouth, but it's still resistance.
DO CATHOLICS REALLY NOT CARE ABOUT GOD BEING INSULTED AND MOCKED?
One example for all...
From AI: (it's also in Latin or on video)
1. Official Canonization Formula (Quote)
This text represents the legally binding statement by which Pope Francis canonized John Paul II on April 27, 2014. to the list of saints:
“FOR THE HONOR OF THE HOLY AND INDIVIDUABLE TRINITY, FOR THE ADVANTAGES OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND THE FLOWERING OF THE CHRISTIAN LIFE, BY THE AUTHORITY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL, AND BY OUR AUTHORITY: AFTER MATURE CONSIDERATION and after repeated prayers for God’s help, after hearing the opinion of many of our brother cardinals and bishops, WE DECLARE AND DEFINE BLESSED JOHN XXIII. AND JOHN PAUL II. AS SAINTS. We enter them in the list of saints, AND ORDER THAT THEY SHALL BE PIETY-VENERATE AMONG THE SAINTS IN THE WHOLE CHURCH.
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Here, imagine the world-famous picture of "John Paul II kissing the Quran....
And then google it or use AI to FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT the Quran SAYS about the Holy Trinity, the Divinity and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, about the Virgin Mary, about Christians..!!!
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IS NOT THIS FORMULA ALONE, in connection with these names (and with the facts stated), LIES? IS IT NOT AN UNHEARD OF INJURY TO THE MOST HOLY TRINITY? IS IT NOT LEADING HUMAN SOULS TO THE ERROR AND TO PERISHMENT WHEN IT PRESENTS TO THEM AS A MODEL OF THE SACREDNESS OF CHRISTIAN LIFE PERSONS WHO HAVE OBVIOUSLY COMMITTED MANY HERETIC ACTS, PROCLAIMED AND TEACHED HERESIES CONDEMNED BY THE CHURCH, WITHOUT HESITATING ANY ADMONITION? AND HE WHO DECLARED THAT FORMULA ALSO DECLARED THAT IT WAS BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND WITH A CLAIM TO INFALLIBILITY, HE DECIDED THAT THEY SHOULD BE PIETYFULLY WORSHIPPED AMONG THE SAINTS IN THE WHOLE CHURCH!!!!?
AND IS IT NOT ALSO AN INSULT TO THE PAPAL OFFICE?
MORTALIUM ANIMOS (Excerpts) – Part 1
Encyclical of Pope Pius XI on Christian Unity
Venerable Brethren, ♥️
Greetings and Apostolic Benediction.
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Many strive to bring about this unity, even regarding the New Testament order established by our Lord Jesus Christ. They proceed from the assumption that nations holding diverse religious views can easily agree on professing a few doctrines as a common foundation for religious life.
To this end, they organize congresses, assemblies, and conferences, inviting to them—without distinction—people from the widest circles for discussion: pagans of every stripe, Christians, and even unfortunate apostates and obstinate deniers of the divinity of Jesus Christ and His divine mission. CATHOLICS CERTAINLY CANNOT APPROVE OF SUCH ATTEMPS which stem from the erroneous doctrine that all religions are more or less equally praiseworthy and good... Adherents of such a theory are not merely victims of deception and error; they also reject the true religion, distort its concept, and unwittingly succumb to naturalism and atheism. It follows clearly from this that all who unreservedly approve of such theories and attempts
COMPLETELY RENOUNCE THE RELIGION REVEALED BY GOD.
In these endeavors to foster Christian unity, many allow themselves to be misled by certain specious arguments. ...Yet beneath these seductive flatteries and smooth words lies a grave error that undermines the foundations of the Catholic faith.
Our office and conscience lay upon Us the duty to ensure that Christ’s flock is not led astray by dangerous illusions; therefore, Venerable Brethren,
WE DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS GREAT DANGER,
...so that it may be clear to Catholics how they ought to judge the question of the corporate union of all Christians into a single body, and what stance they should adopt regarding it.
God, the Creator of the universe... Himself willed to instruct man regarding the duties of rational beings toward their Creator. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1). It is therefore clear that
THERE IS NO OTHER TRUE RELIGION EXCEPT THAT WHICH IS BUILT UPON THE REVEALED WORD OF GOD.
This revelation, given at the beginning and continued under the Old Covenant, was brought to fulfillment by Jesus Christ through the New Covenant. SINCE GOD HAS SPOKEN—and history bears witness that He has indeed spoken—IT IS MAN'S CLEAR DUTY TO BELIEVE UNCONDITIONALLY IN THE GOD WHO HAS THUS REVEALED HIMSELF, AND TO SUBMIT TO HIS COMMAND. However, to make this possible, the only-begotten Son of God founded His Church on earth. All who still consider themselves Christians must surely admit that Christ founded a Church—specifically, a *single* Church. Yet opinions differ regarding the qualities this Church must possess. Many, for instance, deny that the Church of Christ must be visible—that is, that the community of believers must appear as one, with all believers united in the same doctrine and under a single teaching and pastoral authority. By the visibility of the Church, they understand merely a sort of union comprising multiple communities, even though these communities hold conflicting doctrines.
However, Christ the Lord FOUNDED HIS CHURCH
AS A PERFECT SOCIETY,
perceptible to the senses by its very nature, so that it might continue the work of redemption under the leadership of a single supreme head (Mt 16:18; Lk 22:32; Jn 21:15–17), through the LIVING WORD OF TEACHING (Mk 1:15) and the administration of the sacraments—those fountains of Divine grace (Jn 3:5; 6:48–49; 20:20; Mt 18:18, etc.).
IT WAS ENTRUSTED WITH THE TASK OF LEADING ALL PEOPLE OF THE WHOLE WORLD AND OF ALL AGES TO ETERNAL SALVATION.
"Go and TEACH ALL NATIONS." (Mt 18:19) Could the Church lose the strength to fulfill this task when Christ stands by its side—He who solemnly promised: "BEHOLD, I AM WITH YOU UNTIL THE END OF THE AGE" (Mt 28:20)? The Church of Christ, therefore, MUST EXIST NOT ONLY TODAY, TOMORROW, AND CONTINUOUSLY, BUT MUST EXIST JUST AS IT EXISTED IN APOSTOLIC TIMES—unless we are to accept the absurdity that Christ could not carry out His will, or that He was mistaken when He declared that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church (Mt 16:18).
And now, a FALSE VIEW can be REJECTED. The proponents of this movement quote, almost incessantly, the words "that they all may be one" and "there shall be one flock and one shepherd" (John 17:21; 10:16).
HOWEVER, THEY INTERPRET THESE WORDS AS MERELY A WISH AND A PLEA OF THE SAVIOR THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FULFILLED. THEY CLAIM THAT UNITY OF FAITH AND GOVERNMENT—THAT MARK OF THE TRUE AND ONLY CHURCH OF CHRIST—HAS NEVER EXISTED AND DOES NOT EXIST EVEN NOW. We may therefore desire it and—given the goodwill of the faithful—perhaps one day attain it; for the time being, however, it remains a mere ideal. It is said that the Church is divided by nature, consisting of many churches or individual communities that remain separated—agreeing on certain points of doctrine while contradicting one another on others. The Church was united, at most, from the apostolic age up to the first ecumenical councils.
Consequently, they further conclude that the old controversies and differences of opinion—which have divided Christendom to this day—must be set aside; instead, a single common standard of faith must be forged from the remaining points of doctrine, a confession in which all can find common ground and feel themselves to be brothers. Only in this way—united by a common bond—will many churches and societies be able to vigorously and successfully halt the advance of unbelief...
Among them, one finds some who acknowledge a certain honorary primacy and limited authority in the Roman Pontiff—NOT BY DIVINE RIGHT, however, but as a result of the consent and agreement of the faithful. Some even wish to make the Roman Pontiff a sort of president over their mixed assemblies, gathered from every quarter.
Yet, among all the non-Catholics who speak so much of Christian fellowship, not one considers submitting to the authority of the Vicar of Jesus Christ and heeding his teaching.
For the time being, they declare a willingness to negotiate with the Roman Church, but on an equal footing—as equals with equals. There is no doubt, however, that if they were permitted to negotiate in this manner, they would do so with the intention of reaching an agreement that would allow them to retain the very views that cause them to wander outside the one flock of Jesus Christ.
It is clear that, under these circumstances, the Holy See CANNOT IN ANY WAY PARRICIPATE IN THESE CONFERENCES.
For the same reasons, Catholics cannot participate in or support such undertakings. Were they to do so, they would be acknowledging a false Christian religion, entirely different from the one Church of Jesus Christ. Can we tolerate the Truth—and indeed, the Truth revealed by God—becoming a subject of negotiation? That would be a supremely sinful course of action.
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THE ONLY ISSUE AT STAKE HERE IS THE DEFENCE OF REVEALED TRUTH.
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MORTALIUM ANIMOS (excerpts) – Part 2
Jesus Christ sent His apostles into the whole world TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL NATIONS, AND—SO THAT THEY MIGHT NEVER FALL INTO ERROR—HE GAVE THEM THE HOLY SPIRIT AS THE TEACHER of all Truth (John 16:13). COULD THIS APOSTOLIC TEACHING HAVE DRIED UP, OR COULD IT EVER HAVE BECOME OBSCURED IN THE CHURCH, WHEN IT IS, AFTER ALL, GUIDED AND PRESERVED BY GOD HIMSELF?
And since our Redeemer clearly stated that THE GOSPEL IS NOT INTENDED MERELY FOR THE APOSTOLIC AGE BUT FOR ALL FUTURE AGES, could the object of faith have become so obscured and uncertain over time that today one must tolerate mutually contradictory opinions? If this were true, one would also have to say that the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles, HIS CONTINUED PRESENCE IN THE CHURCH, and the Savior’s preaching had long ago lost their power and utility.
BUT TO ASSERT SUCH A THING WOULD BE
BLASPHEMY.
Furthermore, it would not have presented the teaching of the Gospel clearly and intact, nor would it have been protected from all danger of error.
Therefore, one strays far from the Truth if, while acknowledging the existence of the treasure of Truth in this world, one believes that this truth must be sought through such arduous study and disputation that a human lifetime would scarcely suffice to find and master it. As if the BENEVOLENT GOD HAD SPOKEN THROUGH THE MOUTHS OF HIS PROPHETS AND HIS ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON only so that a mere few—and only in advanced age—might come to know the truth He revealed, rather than SO THAT THE MORAL TEACHING HE IMPARTS TO THE PEOPLE MIGHT SERVE AS THEIR GUIDING STAR THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. Christians may well be motivated in their efforts toward church unity by a noble desire to foster love among believers.
BUT HOW IS LOVE POSSIBLE AT THE EXPENSE OF FAITH?
For we all know that it was John—the Apostle of Love, whose Gospel serves as a REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY OF THE MOST SACRED HEART OF JESUS and who constantly instilled in his disciples the new commandment to "love one another"—who strictly forbade maintaining ties with those who did not profess the full and uncorrupted teaching of Christ. "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or offer him a greeting." (2 Jan 11)
Since love rests upon the foundation of uncorrupted and sincere faith, Christ's disciples must be united with one another by the bond of the unity of faith.
How, then, is it even possible to conceive of a Christian union whose members would retain their own personal views—even regarding matters of faith—that contradict the views of others? For instance, if some were to regard Sacred Tradition as a true source of faith, while others denied its validity? Or what if some regarded the ecclesiastical hierarchy of bishops, priests, and deacons as an institution established by God, while others claimed that the hierarchy was introduced only gradually in response to local needs and the requirements of the times? What if some worshipped Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar—believing Him to be truly present there through the wondrous change of bread and wine known as transubstantiation—while others maintained that Christ is present there only through faith or as a sign and by the power of the sacrament? What if some regarded the Eucharist as both a sacrament and a sacrifice, while others saw in it merely a remembrance of the Lord’s Last Supper and a memorial of Him? What if some considered it good and conducive to salvation to invoke the saints reigning with Christ—above all, the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary—and to venerate their images, while others rejected this practice as incompatible with the reverence due to the Mediator between God and mankind (cf. 1 Tim. 2:5), Jesus Christ? It is impossible to conceive how the path to Church unity could be paved amidst this confusion of opinions, for such unity can arise only from a single teaching authority, a single rule of faith, and a single faith in Christ.
Furthermore, in matters of faith, it is entirely inappropriate to distinguish between so-called "fundamental" and "non-fundamental" points of doctrine—as if the former had to be accepted by all, while acceptance of the latter was left to the free judgment of the faithful. For the formal motive of the supernatural virtue of faith is the authority of the revealing God, which admits of no such distinction.
Therefore, true disciples of Christ accept with equal faith the mystery of the Most Holy Trinity and the article of faith concerning the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God, and they believe in the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ just as they do in papal infallibility, as defined at the First Vatican Council. Although these truths were solemnly defined at different times—some even recently—they must all be accepted equally and faithfully. For did not God reveal them all? The Teaching Office of the Church, established on this earth by divine decree
so that revealed truths might be preserved forever unchanged and be easily and securely known by people,
is indeed exercised daily by the Pope and the bishops united with him. However, when it becomes necessary to take more effective action against the attacks of heretics, or to explain certain points of doctrine to the faithful more clearly and deeply, then it is the duty of the Church's Teaching Office to proceed to a solemn definition of that doctrine. By this extraordinary exercise of the teaching office, NOTHING NEW IS INVENTED, NOR IS ANYTHING NEW ADDED TO THE SUM OF TRUTHS—contained at least implicitly—within the treasury of Revelation entrusted to the Church by God. Rather, TRUTHS ARE MERELY CLARIFIED that may have hitherto seemed unclear to many, or truths are proposed for belief that were previously challenged by many.
MORTALIUM ANIMOS (excerpts) – Part 3
Thus it is clear, Venerable Brethren, why the APOSTOLIC SEE HAS NEVER ALLOWED THE FAITHFUL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GATHERINGS OF NON-CATHOLICS. FOR THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS CANNOT BE ACHIEVED IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN BY STRIVING FOR THE RETURN OF DISSIDENTS TO THE ONE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, FROM WHICH THESE UNFORTUNATE SOULS ONCE FELL AWAY. To the one, true Church of Christ—we say—which is visible to all and which, ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF ITS FOUNDER, WILL REMAIN EXACTLY AS HE ESTABLISHED IT FOR THE SALVATION OF ALL.
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And this holy martyr rightly marvels at how it is possible to believe that “this unity, which is grounded in the immutability of God and bound up with heavenly mysteries, could be torn and shattered within the Church itself by the discord of divided men.” Since, therefore,
THE MYSTICAL BRIDE OF CHRIST HAS NEVER BEENTAINTED THROUGHOUT THE AGES, NOR
COULD SHE EVER BE. St. Cyprian himself bears witness to this when he writes:
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“THE BRIDE OF CHRIST CANNOT BE DEFILED. SHE IS UNCORRUPTED AND PURE.
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She knows but one home and guards the sanctity of a single chamber with chaste discipline” (*On the Unity of the Catholic Church*, 6, 11).
And this holy martyr rightly marvels at HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO BELIEVE THAT “THIS UNITY, WHICH IS FOUNDED ON DIVINE IMMUTABILITY AND BOUND TO HEAVENLY MYSTERIES, COULD BE TORN ASUNDER AND SHATTERED WITHIN THE CHURCH ITSELF BY THE DISCORD OF DIVIDED MEN.” Since, therefore,
THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST IS ONE
the Mystical Body of Christ is one
(1 Cor 12:12), and since it is “joined and knit together” (Eph 4:16) just like His physical body, it is foolish to say that this Mystical Body can consist of severed and separated members.
Whoever, then, is not united with this Mystical Body is not a member of it and is not united with the Head, who is Christ. No one remains within this one Church of Christ who does not obediently submit to the authority of Peter and his legitimate successors, and who does not thereby acknowledge their power.
Let the prodigal sons, then, return to their common Father, who will embrace them with love, no longer remembering the wrongs they once committed against the Apostolic See.
If they wish—as they constantly say—to be reunited with Us and with Our own, why do they not hasten to return to the Church, to the "Mother and Teacher of all who believe in Christ"? (Fourth Lateran Council, c. 5.)
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"ONLY THE CATHOLICS CHURCH PRESERVES TRUE WORSHIP. She is the fountain of truth, the home of faith, and the temple of God."
Whoever does not enter her, or whoever leaves her, remains far from the hope of life and salvation. Let no one obstinately attempt to deceive himself. It is a matter of life and salvation. “Whoever does not grasp it eagerly and carefully, it will slip away from him and be extinguished” (Divin. Instit. 4:30, 11–12).
Let the separated sons, therefore, turn to the Apostolic See established in this city—which the Princes of the Apostles, Peter and Paul, consecrated with their blood—for here is the “root and mother of the Catholic Church” (St. Cyprian – Ep. 48 ad Cornelium, 3). NOT WITH THE ASSUMPTION OR HOPE THAT THE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, THE “PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF TRUTH” (1 Tim 3:15), WILL ABANDON THE PURITY OF THE FAITH AND TOLERATE THEIR ERRORS,
BUT RATHER THAT THEY MAY ENTRUST THEMSELVES TO HER TEACHING AUTHORITY AND GUIDANCE.
MAY THE DIVINE REDEEMER, “WHO DESIRES ALL MEN TO BE SAVED AND TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH” (1 Tim 2:4), HEAR OUR CEASELESS PRAYERS AND CALL ALL THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY BACK TO THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH. In this most important matter, we turn to the Most Blessed Mother of Divine Grace ❤️, the Conqueror of all heresies, the Help of Christians, and we call upon her to hasten, through her intercession, the day when all shall hear the voice of her Divine Son, "keeping the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" (Eph. 4:3).
You know, Venerable Brethren, how deeply We desire this.
Let all Our sons know of this—not only Catholics, but also those children separated from Us. If they humbly pray for heavenly enlightenment, they will undoubtedly recognize the one true Church of Christ and enter it, united with Us in perfect charity.
Given at Rome, at St. Peter’s, on the 6th of January, 1928, the Feast of the Manifestation of Christ our Lord, in the sixth year of Our pontificate.
Pius XI.
THE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS:
(it is the same in all (truly) Catholic books, catechisms, sermons, agrees with the Holy Scriptures...Here is a short excerpt from the book WHAT IS THE CHURCH by Dr. Josef Pospíšil
WHAT IS THE CHURCH:
https://librinostri.catholica.cz/download/PospisilCojestCirkev-OCR.pdf
(Book II, Chapter I On the Members of the Holy Church)
...how can the gates of hell overpower it
and refute it, when Christ, God and man, who founded it, IS HIMSELF PRESENT IN IT, as the Holy Apostles and their successors in them promised
with the words: "AND, LEARN, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD."
The same truth also follows from the words with which the Divine
Savior promised st. apostles, that HE WILL PRAY THE FATHER, AND THAT HE WILL GIVE THEM ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY REMAIN WITH THEM FOREVER.
If the Holy Spirit remains with the holy apostles and their successors forever, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE TO THINK THAT THE CHURCH, CONSTANTLY PROTECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, COULD EITHER COMPLETELY EXTINCT OR GO WRONG IN SOMETHING THAT BELONGS TO ITS CONSTITUTION GIVEN TO IT BY CHRIST, OR WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE DIVINE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, WHICH IT IS TO PROCLAIM TO THE HUMAN GENERATION UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD.
.Any such possibility is COMPLETELY EXCLUDED, BECAUSE IT CONTRARY TO THE VERY DIVINE CHARACTERISTICS. For GOD IS COMPLETELY FAITHFUL AND BY HIS OMNIKNOWLEDGE HE ALSO KNOWS HOW TO FULFILL THESE PROMISES, AND HE ALSO HAS UNLIMITED POWER, DESPITE ALL EVIL AND HUMAN EVIL, TO FULFILL THEM.....
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Another quote from the book:
Since the Church had from its origin and will have until the end of the world ALWAYS ONE AND THE SAME PURPOSE, THE ETERNAL SALVATION OF MANKIND, IT CANNOT BE SUBJECTED TO ANY ESSENTIAL CHANGE, ergo it must be indefeatable (indefeetibilis). If it did not last until the end of the world or if it changed in some essential thing, then it would no longer be capable of the purpose for which Christ founded it and
THE BLAME WOULD NOT FALL ON HER, BUT ON HER FOUNDER, WHICH IS ONLY TO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED
IT IS BLASPHEMY
DO CATHOLICS REALLY NOT CARE HOW GOD IS INSULTED AND MOCKED?
Every day more blasphemy against God! The Mystical Body of Christ torn to shreds, where else can it go?
It would probably be best for me to stop reading (and listening to) all the possible articles on the topic of the Church on the Internet. I really find it hard to listen to it!
Every day more and more malice and blasphemy against God. And most importantly, what does it solve? How much more? What else must happen?
And why are even those who love the Lord Jesus, the Holy Trinity, the Virgin Mary, and the entire Catholic Church, so divided, when the LORD JESUS WANTED (WANTED) that we all BE ONE!
WHO TAKES NOTE OF THIS?
How can we hope for any solution to the church crisis like this... ARE WE EFFORTLESSLY SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH?
The truth, which is the ONLY one?
That's probably the problem everyone thinks they have...
But what do we base it on?
ON THE WORD OF GOD? ON THE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC. CHURCH? And are we SURE of that?
PLEASE read what I have in my heart. We are to form the Mystical Body of Christ ( , we are to be grafted onto it...WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING.
And we are to help each other...to benefit the Church with what we have. So I want to tell you one thing, it is from the depths of my soul and heart and I think it is important:
WE MUST OBEY THE WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS and the TEACHINGS OF THE HOLY CHURCH, which He founded and for which He Himself guaranteed! WE MUST TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY!
Luke 21:33
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
John 14:23-24
Jesus answered him, “Whoever loves me will keep my words, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me will not keep my words. And the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father’s who sent me.
Someone thinks: "but not that seriously" (I hear this often)
But the LORD JESUS himself says:
"WHOEVER LOVES ME WILL KEEP MY
WORDS."
IF WE LOVE HIM,♥️
I think we should "hang" on Jesus' lips....AND TAKE ALL HIS WORDS SERIOUSLY.
In order to fulfill them, we must first KNOW them, so we should STRIVE to know the Word of God - in the Holy Scriptures in accordance with the tradition of the Church and also in the TEACHING OF THE CHURCH.
And then TRY to fulfill it with no less EFFORT.
So, once again:
If once the HOLY CHURCH taught something, then TODAY SHE CANNOT TEACH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, OR EVEN CONTRARY!
AND WE CANNOT COVER OUR EARS AND PRETEND NOT TO HEAR
....TRUTHS THAT DO NOT SUIT US....
And I will say this with a specific example:
HOW CAN CATHOLICS, DESPITE ALL, IN THE EYES OF THE SHOCK HERESY AND BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD AND THUS ALSO THE SEDUCE AND DRAG DOWN OF A HUGE NUMBER OF SOULS TO ETERNAL DAMNATION,
HOW CAN THEY AGREE WITH
THAT THIS MAN
IS THE POPE
WHEN ACCORDING TO THE TEACHING OF THE CHURCH AND THE WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF, WHO PROMISED TO THE APOSTLES THAT HE WOULD BE WITH THEM "ALL DAYS UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD" AND THAT HE WOULD SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, TO THE CHURCH, AND WHEN THE CHURCH HAS ALWAYS TEACHED THE WHOLE AND UNCHANGABLE TRUTH, INCLUDING THAT THE CHURCH'S MAGISTRATE MUST PRESERVE AND TRANSMIT ONLY THE TRUTH (see below)
HOW CAN WE NOT BELIEVE THIS TEACHING TODAY???
Just because we don't see a way out of some, albeit very serious and complicated situation?
By not believing it, WE DENY OUR OWN FAITH!!! DO YOU REALIZE THAT???
Did Abraham, the Virgin Mary, Saint Peter... and many other WITNESSES OF FAITH,
refuse to believe the word of God?
The Lord Jesus often rebukes those with the words "of little faith..."
Although they were in situations they did not understand, they OBEYED, BELIEVED IN GOD,
they did not deviate and did not seek their own human, compromise or from their point of view more advantageous or (seemingly) easier solutions.
And that is what God valued in them, that is why He rewarded them with many blessings that passed on, thanks to their faith, to the Church!
Has God ever abandoned His children? Did He not come to their aid when they sincerely begged Him, when they left their sins and sincerely begged Him?
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Is 63, 7 - 10
WHY DO WE STILL NOT BELIEVE HIM? WHY DO WE GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT?
LET US CONFESS IT, LET US CONFESS OUR SINS
TO GOD, LET US REPENT OF THEM, LET US ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS AND LET US SIN NO MORE!
Is 63, 7 - 64,12
Let us begin to ask what God wants, what HIS will is
AI:
The phrase “Come out of Babylon, my people” (or “Come out of Babylon”) is a deeply rooted biblical phrase that appears in several key places in Scripture.
In its figurative sense, it is a call to leave sin, the corrupt world, or false religious systems and return to pure faith and God.
Where is this call found in the Bible?
Revelation 18:4: This is the most famous passage in the New Testament. John writes: “And I heard another voice from heaven say, ‘Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.’” In this context, “Babylon” represents a harlot and symbolizes the fallen, ungodly world system at the end of time.
Jeremiah 51:45 (and also 51:6): An Old Testament call to the Jews in Babylonian captivity: “Go out of her, my people, and save yourselves every one from the fierce anger of the Lord!” The prophet urged them to physically and spiritually leave Babylon, which was awaiting judgment.
Isaiah 48:20: A similar joyful call to leave captivity: “Go out of Babylon, flee from the Chaldeans! With a voice of joy proclaim…”
What is the meaning of this phrase today?
In Christian theology and preaching, these words are often used as a metaphor for:
Separating from the moral decay of society.
Abandoning false teachings or corrupt church structures.
Personal repentance and a radical decision to live a holy life
Everyone must see what today's "Rome" has become!
Many of you write about it almost EVERY DAY...
Why is it so difficult to look into history and LEARN FROM MISTAKES?
That, I believe, is the first step in the right direction, because
"Without faith it is impossible to please God."
(Hebrews 11:6)
According to the teachings of the Church, faith is the first condition for salvation
Pope" is still being discussed
DOESN'T THE CHURCH HERSELF JUDGE HIM BY ITS TEACHINGS?
Simply ABSOLUTE EXCLUSION OF ERROR!
So when the Church teaches something, the Word of God says something
- WHO DARE TO CLAIM SOMETHING ELSE?
I think we have woven a whip for ourselves, dug a hole for ourselves, cut off a branch - call it what we want... WE HAVE LOST THE TRUE CATHOLIC FAITH, we have stopped believing EVERYTHING that the Church teaches!
This is where the terrible confusion and chaos and the resulting DISUNITY come from...everyone thinks and claims something different BECAUSE WE DO NOT HOLD TO WHAT WAS PROMISED AND BELIEVED FROM THE BEGINNING
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I know, you will probably delete me, maybe I have violated some of the terms of comments... I apologize to you..
I guess I'm also done reading about all the insults to God, the Church....😓🙏💔
But I would like to ask, based on the binding teaching of the Catholic Church:
IS IT AT ALL POSSIBLE FOR THE MAGISTRATE OF THE CHURCH TO PRESENT TO ME FOR BELIEVE SUCH THINGS AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS (from the documents of the Second Vatican Council - NOSTRA AETATE, chapters 2 and 3, and then also in the (new "catechisms"):
...,,The Catholic Church does not reject anything that is TRUE AND HOLY IN THESE (non-Catholic) RELIGIONS.....AFTER ALL THEY ARE OFTEN A REFLECTION OF THE TRUTH WHICH ENLIGHTENS ALL PEOPLE...
ISLAM (NOSTRA AETATE)
The Church also looks with RESPECT at
MUSLIMS WHO WORSHIP THE ONE GOD,
TO THE LIVING AND PERSON, EXISTING, MERCIFUL AND ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, WHO SPOKE
JESUS, *THOUGH* THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE AS GOD, but they WORSHIP as a PROPHET and HONOR his virgin mother Mary and sometimes even PRAYERFULLY call upon her (!)
( I understand that these people are probably not to blame for this, if they were taught this way from childhood, but also according to this there is no reason to preach the gospel to them...(?) * THOUGH - is that just some trifle?!
I definitely do not want to encourage anyone to hate any people who have a different faith. The Catholic Church teaches us that we should hate sin, but love sinners and that we should preach the gospel!