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Clayton Hynfield's avatar

Thanks for this piece. I’ve jokingly referred to myself as a “rad-trad” many times, without realizing the scandalousness of the moniker.

Those interested in the linguistic aspects of the counter-revolution would do well to read Dr. Peter Kwaniewski’s “How to Talk Like a (Traditional) Catholic”: https://open.substack.com/pub/traditionsanity/p/how-to-talk-like-a-traditional-catholic?r=p4b7a&utm_medium=ios

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Mitchell Godfrey's avatar

There are things that I certainly sympathize with in this article and there are things I disagree with and there are things that I need further clarification on. That said, I am going to start small and hopefully we can have some shorter back and forths instead of me writing a catechism long essay and receiving one back.

Agreement - Those that maintained the faith in the times of turbulence following the implementation (mostly poor implementation) I believe will be among the greatest of saints. These people include my grandparents which was critical in getting the faith to me and my siblings through my father.

Disagreement - labels have to be used because communication can't be infinitely nuanced. Words themselves are labels. They are the way in which we describe the world. When I say "cup" that narrows all of reality down to an incredibly small portion of reality, but it doesn't tell you the size, shape, color, physical material, or numerous other characteristics of the cup. Most of the time, I simply stop at "cup" though and move on without providing any of those other details and that is okay. If someone uses "radical traditionalist" and defines it as something that is different that your use of the term then you should do two things 1) explain why their definition shouldn't be used because it is so far away from an appropriate use of the term (the way the political left uses Nazi today), if you think that is necessary and 2) put aside your definition of the term and adopt the other's use of the term for the rest of their message so as to not conflate the usage and talk past each other.

Further clarification - Radical is a term that inherently includes a sense of relativism. I can only be radical in comparison to something else. Radical hence cannot be an inherently bad term. When Jesus says, "Repent and believe in the Gospel" or "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand." The word used for repent is describing a radical reorientation of one's life towards Our Lord (CCC 1431). Surely you would not disagree that we Catholics should be radical in this sense?

God Bless!

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