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Marshall Kinsey's avatar

I asked chatgbt what these "rites" might be:

The Rito de la Pachamama is a traditional Andean agricultural ceremony practiced in regions of Peru and Bolivia that centers on honoring Pachamama, or Mother Earth, through acts of gratitude and reciprocity. The ritual typically involves preparing an offering (ofrenda or despacho) composed of symbolic items such as coca leaves, grains, food, sweets, and drink, which are then either buried in the earth or burned so that they may be received by the spiritual forces. Participants often perform libations (ch’alla), pouring liquids like chicha or alcohol onto the ground before consuming them, acknowledging dependence on the earth’s provision. The ceremony is usually led by a ritual specialist or elder who invokes Pachamama and other natural spirits, offering prayers for fertility, protection, and abundance, especially in connection with agricultural cycles. Rooted in indigenous Andean cosmology, the rite expresses a worldview in which the earth is a living being and humans must maintain harmony with it, and in some regions it is practiced alongside or blended with elements of Catholic tradition.

Kaylene Emery's avatar

Sounds like Chatgbt is kinda pro pacha ?

Personally I would not ask IT much. It has been designed to deceive.

Just sayin….

RosaryKnight's avatar

Although this incriminates the papal pretender Leo & will probably help a good number of people who were on the fence about him to reject him as an invalid pope, there will be a lot fewer who will reject the counterfeit V2 church on account of it, which is of immeasurably more importance. In other words, I'd say Satan doesn't mind this kind of thing at all. He may even encourage it, since it will distract V2ers from focussing on the counterfeit nature of the V2 church as a whole. But most of them will likely not even hear about it.

Kaylene Emery's avatar

No surprises here .

Michael Boharski's avatar

From Nostra Aetate: "The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men."

Is this not compatible with Vatican II, an instance of probable dialogue and collaboration with the followers of this religion, a recognition and promotion of their socio-cultural values? Prevost has tons of wiggle room here, because the problem is Vatican II, which he already told you he is promoting ,and not that he is apostasizing per se. You can not really apply preVatican II Catholicism to the Conciliar church and expect a meaningful response because they've rejected it.

Sean Johnson's avatar

These acts of apostasy are endemic to the conciliar papacy: Before Prevost and Bergoglio and the Pachamama worship incidents, there was BXVI lighting menorahs with Jews in synagogues and removing his shoes to pray in the Blue Mosque. Before that Wojtyla kissed the Koran and organized the worship of false Gods at Assisi. Before him, Montini prayed with the schismatic Athanagoras in Jerusalem. Roncalli invited Protestant and Orthodox observers to his false council, whose feedback and suggestions were incorporated into official deliberations.