A number of former 'SSPX sympathisers' recently signalled their imminent break-up from the Society, specifically with their denials of the 'new religion'.
Louis, stop feeding articles to AI and asking it to respond; alternatively, read harder. I didn't use the word vitality, that was Mgr Goldade's comment. The praise was limited to his recognition of the existence of the new religion.
I have had many complaints about what readers considered to be AI comments spamming up the combox. I also considered these comments to be likely generated with AI. When I asked him directly if this was so, he deflected.
As the proprietor of this site, this is a confession. So that is the end of that.
Oh FFS, haven't we been around this maypole before? Stand by for endless comments ending with "but you haven't answered my question". <eyeroll>
Look, Louie, we get it. You think traditionalists have it all wrong about "jurisdiction" and "mission" and that we have no answer to your accusations, not-so-subtly implying that we're either too stupid to recognize the "elephant in the room" that you so importunately insist is THE BIGGEST QUESTION that needs to be answered, or willfully ignoring it out of stubborn attachment to our ecclesial and liturgical preferences. You've made this argument here before, with alarming regularity. Can we just agree to disagree and move on now?
[Insert reply beginning with "I never said..."] Sigh...
I fail miserably to comprehend the rantings against the SSPX. The only thing that makes sense to me is the fact that our Church is being demolished while the Trads argue about nonsense. The only thing we need to absolutely fight for is the salvation of souls. Nothing is more important to God. Nothing. The SSPX does just that. Rome has not saved a soul in centuries!!! Instead, they have lured the ignorant into the pit of their hell. For the love and honor of God, please remember that. 🙏
It was humbling to watch these men about to be lifted to the fullness of the priesthood. The grativas was written on their faces. Heavenly realities, at the very least, got a wide public showing on the Feast of the Precious Blood of Our Lord.
It was an awesome ceremony but the spectre of a finger wagging against a so-called pope as if a pope is the enemy couldn’t be washed away by the rain. The SSPX must declare that poncey layman in the Vatican and his new religion ‘anathema’. P.S. Taylor ‘Lay Tay’ Marshall entered the new religion and, with American military gusto decided to 'send' himself upon the unwary populace and 'teach'. Given that he has likely never assisted at a valid Catholic Mass he needs to realise he has yet to convert to the Catholic Church.
But this is not a new thing that the SSPX calls it a new religion. They have been calling it a new religion.
Its the refusal to arrive at the logical conclusion that is discouraging.
Who is the leader of this new religion?
Who is the defender of the Catholic religion?
SSPX is bending over backward to defend themselves to the "conservative" Novus Ordo parishioners but dismiss the sedevacantist position. Its so frustrating.
Oh, believe me, if there ever was a man frustrated by this, that would be me. I double that take of it being extremely, frustratingly annoying and frankly depressing to see them kick the people they ought to apologize to. Not four our sake but for theirs, since sedevacantist position is simply the truth.
I've seen this dynamic play out in various organizations, you can sort of trade truth for power, it must be like a law of nature. You will earn popularity and support through abandoning just a little bit, just this one or few things, ok... why not, says the tempter, since with all these resources you can do so much good! Just give an inch ok, and that includes forgetting those little people who hold to the truth.
But you know, there is law of even more than nature, a law of God, the unchanging Truth, Our Lord Jesus Christ, Truth Incarnate. For what did Our Lady say to our Father in Heaven, inspired by Holy Spirit, Christ Our Lord in Her Womb?
"Deposuit potentes de sede, et exaltavit humiles." The whole Magnificat verifies this law, that it is to God alone to exalt, and He will in the end exalt the lowly, such as Our Lady was, lowliest of the low, and now highest of all creation, after Our Lord Jesus Christ, who is God. Nothing else separates Her Honor from His Honor, except that He is God. Such is the teaching of Saints, such is our Faith. All Glory to God and His Ever-Virgin Mother, and St. Joseph Their Protector! May we imitate their humility, as difficult as it is.
This is likely the most useful and enlightening response I have read to the SSPX consecrations today, especially in conjunction with your linked article (of July 15, 2025) about Paul VI's 1965 address to the United Nations. I am not surprised to read denunciations of the "schism" by those who (willfully or not) are oblivious to the "new religion" of official Rome. But it is especially hard to read those now distancing themselves from their prior "recognition" of it during the time of Francis. And stranger still are the brilliant critiques of modernism and the new religion issuing in abundance from the SSPX, but without drawing the painful conclusion about the one in Rome promulgating it day after day. You explained this inherent contradiction very well yesterday too. (I think it must be personal rather than intellectual on the part of the SSPX, clinging to a wayward father, refusing to disown him or be disowned by him.) Thank you for what you patiently (and most civilly!) point out in your essays: it is sadly compelling.
Fr Pagliarani also talked at length about the false religion of man during the sermon of the consecrations. Maybe you could add that? The English YouTube version should have captions by now.
The reality is that there are now four more bishops to ensure that souls all over the world will continue to have access to valid sacraments for the sanctification of their souls, in rites that are Catholic, dispensed by bishops and priests who are neither heretics nor schismatics but faithful Catholics. This is, therefore, an occasion of great joy, even though everything is far from perfect.
Naturally, we wish that they would finally repudiate not just the new religion, but also its architects as well.
We wish that their words condemning Modernism would be at least just as forceful as those of the late Abp. Lefebvre (so, this sermon is a good start).
We wish that the liberal era of Bp. Fellay's ralliement is over, and that the SSPX will return to its roots.
In addition, in choosing to go through with these consecrations, the SSPX has also vindicated the late Bp. Williamson's consecrations of bishops, which they can no longer condemn without being hypocritical.
Thank you for sharing Bishop Goldade’s Sermon. What kills me is how people see something is wrong… yet will condemn the SSPX for schism. I was watching a video from Fr. Jason Charron (a Ukrainian rite priest), and it perplexed me how he skirts around the whole issue. It almost felt like he was sympathetic to the SSPX but yet at the same time he wasn’t. He couldn’t make up his mind.
Let us hope and pray the SSPX come to a fuller conclusion regarding the architects of this new religion.
When TM said the Vatican’s attack on Mary, Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix of All Graces was something like number 5,200th on his list of concerns he lost all credibility with me.
Re: Marshall's pseudo-rhetoric question: Taking into account what Sheen was doing in Rochester (and regarding his fraternity with Jews), what he was saying and what he wrote in his autobiography it is probable he died adhering to new religion.
It is unfortunate that many former believers have chosen to distance themselves from the one true Faith which is found in SSPX and CMRI. Some of them deny that the abomination of V-II is a "new religion" , but those choosing that position are denying what the heretics in Rome have themselves publicly stated. Those heretics have called their false church a "New religion". That is one of the rare instances of which a V-II heretic actually said something that was NOT intentionally vague and ambiguous, but was undeniably clear.
Sorry Trad Inc, but you are 100% dead wrong. Do you really believe Jesus will welcome the heretics, apostates, and idolaters into Heaven? If He were to do that, which I believe to be impossible as He is THE Truth, He would no longer be The Truth as He would have contradicted His own words. May God have mercy on the heretics and their supporters, PROVIDED they repent of their sins.
It may merely be a matter of perspective, but I find it far more important to realize that the Conciliar church has rejected the old religion rather than embraced a new religion for the latter is merely a consequence of the former.
Louis, stop feeding articles to AI and asking it to respond; alternatively, read harder. I didn't use the word vitality, that was Mgr Goldade's comment. The praise was limited to his recognition of the existence of the new religion.
Do you use AI in your comments?
I have banned Louis de Montfort indefinitely.
I have had many complaints about what readers considered to be AI comments spamming up the combox. I also considered these comments to be likely generated with AI. When I asked him directly if this was so, he deflected.
As the proprietor of this site, this is a confession. So that is the end of that.
No it doesn't do that. It expresses pleasure that the man recognised the reality of new religion.
So you're admitting that you came on an article about X, to talk about Y?
Oh FFS, haven't we been around this maypole before? Stand by for endless comments ending with "but you haven't answered my question". <eyeroll>
Look, Louie, we get it. You think traditionalists have it all wrong about "jurisdiction" and "mission" and that we have no answer to your accusations, not-so-subtly implying that we're either too stupid to recognize the "elephant in the room" that you so importunately insist is THE BIGGEST QUESTION that needs to be answered, or willfully ignoring it out of stubborn attachment to our ecclesial and liturgical preferences. You've made this argument here before, with alarming regularity. Can we just agree to disagree and move on now?
[Insert reply beginning with "I never said..."] Sigh...
#toldya!
I fail miserably to comprehend the rantings against the SSPX. The only thing that makes sense to me is the fact that our Church is being demolished while the Trads argue about nonsense. The only thing we need to absolutely fight for is the salvation of souls. Nothing is more important to God. Nothing. The SSPX does just that. Rome has not saved a soul in centuries!!! Instead, they have lured the ignorant into the pit of their hell. For the love and honor of God, please remember that. 🙏
"Rome has not saved a soul in centuries." Just, no, absolutely not true, unless you meant to say "[Modernist] Rome has not saved a soul in decades."
God bless Bp. Goldade. Ad multos annos!
It was humbling to watch these men about to be lifted to the fullness of the priesthood. The grativas was written on their faces. Heavenly realities, at the very least, got a wide public showing on the Feast of the Precious Blood of Our Lord.
It was an awesome ceremony but the spectre of a finger wagging against a so-called pope as if a pope is the enemy couldn’t be washed away by the rain. The SSPX must declare that poncey layman in the Vatican and his new religion ‘anathema’. P.S. Taylor ‘Lay Tay’ Marshall entered the new religion and, with American military gusto decided to 'send' himself upon the unwary populace and 'teach'. Given that he has likely never assisted at a valid Catholic Mass he needs to realise he has yet to convert to the Catholic Church.
But this is not a new thing that the SSPX calls it a new religion. They have been calling it a new religion.
Its the refusal to arrive at the logical conclusion that is discouraging.
Who is the leader of this new religion?
Who is the defender of the Catholic religion?
SSPX is bending over backward to defend themselves to the "conservative" Novus Ordo parishioners but dismiss the sedevacantist position. Its so frustrating.
Oh, believe me, if there ever was a man frustrated by this, that would be me. I double that take of it being extremely, frustratingly annoying and frankly depressing to see them kick the people they ought to apologize to. Not four our sake but for theirs, since sedevacantist position is simply the truth.
I've seen this dynamic play out in various organizations, you can sort of trade truth for power, it must be like a law of nature. You will earn popularity and support through abandoning just a little bit, just this one or few things, ok... why not, says the tempter, since with all these resources you can do so much good! Just give an inch ok, and that includes forgetting those little people who hold to the truth.
But you know, there is law of even more than nature, a law of God, the unchanging Truth, Our Lord Jesus Christ, Truth Incarnate. For what did Our Lady say to our Father in Heaven, inspired by Holy Spirit, Christ Our Lord in Her Womb?
"Deposuit potentes de sede, et exaltavit humiles." The whole Magnificat verifies this law, that it is to God alone to exalt, and He will in the end exalt the lowly, such as Our Lady was, lowliest of the low, and now highest of all creation, after Our Lord Jesus Christ, who is God. Nothing else separates Her Honor from His Honor, except that He is God. Such is the teaching of Saints, such is our Faith. All Glory to God and His Ever-Virgin Mother, and St. Joseph Their Protector! May we imitate their humility, as difficult as it is.
This is likely the most useful and enlightening response I have read to the SSPX consecrations today, especially in conjunction with your linked article (of July 15, 2025) about Paul VI's 1965 address to the United Nations. I am not surprised to read denunciations of the "schism" by those who (willfully or not) are oblivious to the "new religion" of official Rome. But it is especially hard to read those now distancing themselves from their prior "recognition" of it during the time of Francis. And stranger still are the brilliant critiques of modernism and the new religion issuing in abundance from the SSPX, but without drawing the painful conclusion about the one in Rome promulgating it day after day. You explained this inherent contradiction very well yesterday too. (I think it must be personal rather than intellectual on the part of the SSPX, clinging to a wayward father, refusing to disown him or be disowned by him.) Thank you for what you patiently (and most civilly!) point out in your essays: it is sadly compelling.
Fr Pagliarani also talked at length about the false religion of man during the sermon of the consecrations. Maybe you could add that? The English YouTube version should have captions by now.
I see the comments about the exaltation of man, although not about a religion or cult of man:
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2026/07/sspx-consecrations-sermon-of-ceremony.html
Fair enough, not exactly the same.
The reality is that there are now four more bishops to ensure that souls all over the world will continue to have access to valid sacraments for the sanctification of their souls, in rites that are Catholic, dispensed by bishops and priests who are neither heretics nor schismatics but faithful Catholics. This is, therefore, an occasion of great joy, even though everything is far from perfect.
Naturally, we wish that they would finally repudiate not just the new religion, but also its architects as well.
We wish that their words condemning Modernism would be at least just as forceful as those of the late Abp. Lefebvre (so, this sermon is a good start).
We wish that the liberal era of Bp. Fellay's ralliement is over, and that the SSPX will return to its roots.
In addition, in choosing to go through with these consecrations, the SSPX has also vindicated the late Bp. Williamson's consecrations of bishops, which they can no longer condemn without being hypocritical.
Thank you SSPX for being the litmus test that proves the seat is empty. No need to play devil's advocate anymore.
Thank you for sharing Bishop Goldade’s Sermon. What kills me is how people see something is wrong… yet will condemn the SSPX for schism. I was watching a video from Fr. Jason Charron (a Ukrainian rite priest), and it perplexed me how he skirts around the whole issue. It almost felt like he was sympathetic to the SSPX but yet at the same time he wasn’t. He couldn’t make up his mind.
Let us hope and pray the SSPX come to a fuller conclusion regarding the architects of this new religion.
When TM said the Vatican’s attack on Mary, Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix of All Graces was something like number 5,200th on his list of concerns he lost all credibility with me.
Re: Marshall's pseudo-rhetoric question: Taking into account what Sheen was doing in Rochester (and regarding his fraternity with Jews), what he was saying and what he wrote in his autobiography it is probable he died adhering to new religion.
It is unfortunate that many former believers have chosen to distance themselves from the one true Faith which is found in SSPX and CMRI. Some of them deny that the abomination of V-II is a "new religion" , but those choosing that position are denying what the heretics in Rome have themselves publicly stated. Those heretics have called their false church a "New religion". That is one of the rare instances of which a V-II heretic actually said something that was NOT intentionally vague and ambiguous, but was undeniably clear.
Sorry Trad Inc, but you are 100% dead wrong. Do you really believe Jesus will welcome the heretics, apostates, and idolaters into Heaven? If He were to do that, which I believe to be impossible as He is THE Truth, He would no longer be The Truth as He would have contradicted His own words. May God have mercy on the heretics and their supporters, PROVIDED they repent of their sins.
It may merely be a matter of perspective, but I find it far more important to realize that the Conciliar church has rejected the old religion rather than embraced a new religion for the latter is merely a consequence of the former.
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.