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And also, I would have another question:

If you were to say that the flock of Christ is both in the Novus Ordo (in those still holding the Faith) and in Tradition:

- what advice should be given to this part of the flock that is still in the Novus Ordo: leave the Novus Ordo and join Tradition, thus exposing themselves not to be governed by the true Shepherds of the Church - or remain in the Novus Ordo, thus exposing their Faith to danger?

- what advice should be given to this part of the flock that is within Tradition : leave Tradition and join the Novus Ordo, thus exposing their Faith to danger - or remain in Tradition, thus exposing themselves to be governed by those who are not the true Shepherds of the Church?

Is the situation such that one has today to choose to be either in the Faith and separated from the true Shepherds on the one hand or away from the Faith but submitted to the True Shepherds of the Church on the other hand?

And if neither the Novus Ordo Bishops nor traditional Catholic Bishops are the true Shepherds of the Church, shouldn't the Faithful leave both the Novus Ordo Bishops and traditional Catholic Bishops and become home aloners until the true Shepherds can be identified?

Respectfully trying to find a way that makes sense... Most of your readers, I believe, want to be Catholic. For this, they need not only to keep the Faith, participate to the sacraments of the Church but also to be governed by the lawful Shepherds of the Church. Is it the case that you cannot hold the three together today? Shouldn't this question of who are the legitimate Shepherds of the Church be investigated equally with the question of where is the true Faith before deciding to attend a chapel/church today as always?

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There was an analysis of Fr. Gabriel Lavery's assertions in regards to the apostolic succession on this thread: https://tradcath.proboards.com/thread/2784/gabriel-lavery-cmri-apostolic-succession

On page 3, an AI translation of the entire section was provided by a forum member, so as to give the full statement and context of what Lainez was explaining. I think reading that thread may assist readers in better understanding these issues.

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