It is essential, to preserve sacramental integrity, for clerics whose orders depend on the Novus Ordo rites to undergo conditional ordination/consecration.
I’m not an expert in this field, just another pewsitter, but I need to ask. Especially as I believe and have reason to believe that the NO sacraments are valid.
What evidence would falsify your position?
Eucharistic miracles? Some future council and pope ruling that the ordinations were valid? Something else?
If you don’t have a falsifying condition, the argument is tautological. “If we assume the ordinations are invalid, then the ordinations are invalid.”
Thanks for this. No, the argument is not tautological. The argument is that for reasons XYZ, we know that these rites cannot have come from the Church; we therefore have no grounds for assuming their validity and no right to act as if they were valid.
Yes, if a future Council or Pope ruled they were valid in spite of their nature (as described by men like Lefebvre etc), I would accept it. I don’t hold them to be invalid.
I’m not an expert in this field, just another pewsitter, but I need to ask. Especially as I believe and have reason to believe that the NO sacraments are valid.
What evidence would falsify your position?
Eucharistic miracles? Some future council and pope ruling that the ordinations were valid? Something else?
If you don’t have a falsifying condition, the argument is tautological. “If we assume the ordinations are invalid, then the ordinations are invalid.”
Not accusing, asking.
Thanks for this. No, the argument is not tautological. The argument is that for reasons XYZ, we know that these rites cannot have come from the Church; we therefore have no grounds for assuming their validity and no right to act as if they were valid.
Yes, if a future Council or Pope ruled they were valid in spite of their nature (as described by men like Lefebvre etc), I would accept it. I don’t hold them to be invalid.
Thank you.