The context and meaning might be paraphrased as "Those who uphold the truth of Dignitatis Humanae, if they are true to their professed principles, must acknowledge that those of us who reject it are simply exercising what they believe to be our natural right to religious liberty."
Great text! I received it in my email and couldn't put it down. Over the past few months, I've been trying to get in touch with some of the "continuist" opinions, and this gave me food for thought.
I mean more generally those who don't see a rupture between pre- and post-Vatican II teaching, and more specifically those who subscribe to the hermeneutic of continuity. I wasn't being too precise.
What does Daly mean by dogmatic sedevacantist? There are 2 meanings I can think of, one if very insulting and one I would agree with.
I don't find anywhere I can ask him.... I tried on his page and got nothing.
I thought repeat thought I saw him say " Cardinal " Burke could be a Catholic. How? I guess it might be so .... I think someone with his training should know the Catholic Church is Spotless and a Pope could never give poison to the entire faithful.
The Church will look at Burke and people with his background as enemies who extended Gr Apost.
I saw his name, and I have some questions that have really bothered me.
Do you have a problem with this? He is a historical, public figure during Great Apostasy, one of top 10 events in history about most important institution on earth, ever,and I thing the dogmatic sede term he coined- I darn well have a right to know about it.
I find it possibly, depending on how he meant it, well…
I TRIED TO CONTACT HIM. I certainly would have like to ask him a few years ago.
I will not get an answer… I wrote much longer tha 2 yrs ago, and as I don’t remember very clearly, I think it was on what might have been his site, if you had quetsions about his sales?????? not very sure
I looked up his name on internet for a 2nd address, and remember getting some golfer….
Case is closed I guess, here, least, but I am still curious. So many Catholic issues , teachings I will prob get an answer to in the next life…. but I try.
I do write very sloppily,, talk as such…. I assume people know what I am thinking about, I don’t edit etc.
I remember i attacked Ratz once on Father Cekeda’s site, but much muuch later I read it, felt horrible and said,something to eff… "I meant Ratz, but said Him, and it coulda been confused with Father Cekada… Of course, Father Cekada is a hero…”
I don't think any of us have a private right for someone who has written something to explain it to us perfectly and in private. Or to demand a public response. That's just not how things work.
As for the term, I don't see what's mysterious about it. Dogmatic means pertaining to dogma. There are those who think the vacancy is itself a dogma, such that denying it is heresy. This then leads to various behaviours such as sectarianism or shunning people. Mr Daly was involved such things in his youth and is on public record refuting them. There's no mystery here.
I thought about what you said after I later - and the word publicallly stuck out. In no way was I trying to badmouth Daly. (I do not know you meant that )
The fact that I am very curious what he meant attests to hte fact that I respect him and am very curious about what he says.
I wanted to find out - was he wrong (imo), am I wrong or even was I sinful etc.
Sedes are very curious and very scrupulous. I guess I prob will never know.
As a sede who found out about sedev in my late 50s and embraced it very quickly but who live every day of my life , and now 29 out of 30 with no Catholics this is very common - so many things about Catholic faith I do not know and just goes into my pile- “ God , You know I wouldd find out if I could , but You chose to put me in this situation, and I just really have no way of finding ouy” Learning Catholic Faith and esp nuances and APPARENT contradictions- well it has severe severe limitations.
if you talk to Daly, tell him I dig his style, if you want to. He’s very “masculine” writer and I enjoy it immensely
Why do you call a non Catholic by name of Cardinal? He is an apostate and ememy of Christ.
It has nothing to do with the article - it has to do wiht Daly. I don't like that he said if (if I am wrong, I will grovel in my apology)… to say that Burke might be a cardinal rips out every thing HE has said about sede, and he has been very beautiful in his defense/ explanation of sedev. And then he drops the Burke comment
I will look at the article - ty very much. of course, I very well doubt I can ask him anything if I have any questions. He is very unique in this regard.
Finally, last one… I am sincererly intersted in these - and I have had no success in getting to him, and i have tried
Daly seems unique in top sede thinkes (and he most certainly is briliant ) in not being able to be contacted easily.
The writers of this blog are top writers of sedev. also and have more access than me, a nobody. But becuase I am a nobody does not mean i don’t care about Rome/ my local apostate church, / apostate pastors
It was written under his reign
The context and meaning might be paraphrased as "Those who uphold the truth of Dignitatis Humanae, if they are true to their professed principles, must acknowledge that those of us who reject it are simply exercising what they believe to be our natural right to religious liberty."
Great text! I received it in my email and couldn't put it down. Over the past few months, I've been trying to get in touch with some of the "continuist" opinions, and this gave me food for thought.
what do you mean by continuist opionion?
I have heard this over 15 times as I loved the sede conference he did, so I did not read it
I mean more generally those who don't see a rupture between pre- and post-Vatican II teaching, and more specifically those who subscribe to the hermeneutic of continuity. I wasn't being too precise.
+Williamson on the hermeneutic: “Blue jerseys will be interpreted as green jerseys.”
ty! gotcha. 1958 sedes who accept bod are the best
What does Daly mean by dogmatic sedevacantist? There are 2 meanings I can think of, one if very insulting and one I would agree with.
I don't find anywhere I can ask him.... I tried on his page and got nothing.
I thought repeat thought I saw him say " Cardinal " Burke could be a Catholic. How? I guess it might be so .... I think someone with his training should know the Catholic Church is Spotless and a Pope could never give poison to the entire faithful.
The Church will look at Burke and people with his background as enemies who extended Gr Apost.
True. This is a great piece from Sede Conference.
I saw his name, and I have some questions that have really bothered me.
Do you have a problem with this? He is a historical, public figure during Great Apostasy, one of top 10 events in history about most important institution on earth, ever,and I thing the dogmatic sede term he coined- I darn well have a right to know about it.
I find it possibly, depending on how he meant it, well…
I TRIED TO CONTACT HIM. I certainly would have like to ask him a few years ago.
In no way was I trying to besmirch Daly.
I will not get an answer… I wrote much longer tha 2 yrs ago, and as I don’t remember very clearly, I think it was on what might have been his site, if you had quetsions about his sales?????? not very sure
I looked up his name on internet for a 2nd address, and remember getting some golfer….
Case is closed I guess, here, least, but I am still curious. So many Catholic issues , teachings I will prob get an answer to in the next life…. but I try.
I do write very sloppily,, talk as such…. I assume people know what I am thinking about, I don’t edit etc.
I remember i attacked Ratz once on Father Cekeda’s site, but much muuch later I read it, felt horrible and said,something to eff… "I meant Ratz, but said Him, and it coulda been confused with Father Cekada… Of course, Father Cekada is a hero…”
I just saw “putting in all caps is eque to yelling”
Sorry, it’s not… sometimes I want to empaszie somthing, like when i think somehting is hilarious.
I am a 65, I think internet is badsically 98% evil, and I am not going by new rules made up by sickos in silicon valley.
last one, I promise. I said APPARENT contradicitions. I capped apparent to show to some poor non Catholic, there are no contracditions in Faith.
I might right elsewhere about sports, and cap something about 73 Knicks… it’s out of joy….
I would advise everyone to be COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES against NWO and it’s endless parts, such as silicon v.
I don't think any of us have a private right for someone who has written something to explain it to us perfectly and in private. Or to demand a public response. That's just not how things work.
As for the term, I don't see what's mysterious about it. Dogmatic means pertaining to dogma. There are those who think the vacancy is itself a dogma, such that denying it is heresy. This then leads to various behaviours such as sectarianism or shunning people. Mr Daly was involved such things in his youth and is on public record refuting them. There's no mystery here.
Daly doesn’t owe me anything, agree.
I thought about what you said after I later - and the word publicallly stuck out. In no way was I trying to badmouth Daly. (I do not know you meant that )
The fact that I am very curious what he meant attests to hte fact that I respect him and am very curious about what he says.
I wanted to find out - was he wrong (imo), am I wrong or even was I sinful etc.
Sedes are very curious and very scrupulous. I guess I prob will never know.
As a sede who found out about sedev in my late 50s and embraced it very quickly but who live every day of my life , and now 29 out of 30 with no Catholics this is very common - so many things about Catholic faith I do not know and just goes into my pile- “ God , You know I wouldd find out if I could , but You chose to put me in this situation, and I just really have no way of finding ouy” Learning Catholic Faith and esp nuances and APPARENT contradictions- well it has severe severe limitations.
if you talk to Daly, tell him I dig his style, if you want to. He’s very “masculine” writer and I enjoy it immensely
Peace out
Why do you call a non Catholic by name of Cardinal? He is an apostate and ememy of Christ.
It has nothing to do with the article - it has to do wiht Daly. I don't like that he said if (if I am wrong, I will grovel in my apology)… to say that Burke might be a cardinal rips out every thing HE has said about sede, and he has been very beautiful in his defense/ explanation of sedev. And then he drops the Burke comment
I will look at the article - ty very much. of course, I very well doubt I can ask him anything if I have any questions. He is very unique in this regard.
Daly to me has written as if he is two persons, one an objective and very tough yet fair sedevacantist who I love. And then someone else.
I have always been curious about him. He puts out some very good stuff, but then a small percentage of very doubtful stuffl
Like he put out there that Burke could be a Catholic. But then he should be open to quetions on such stuff… and he’s not. Frustrating.
And dogmatic sede - that could be very very wrong if he meant it in one sense.
But he puts it out there and then we are just left with it
Finally, last one… I am sincererly intersted in these - and I have had no success in getting to him, and i have tried
Daly seems unique in top sede thinkes (and he most certainly is briliant ) in not being able to be contacted easily.
The writers of this blog are top writers of sedev. also and have more access than me, a nobody. But becuase I am a nobody does not mean i don’t care about Rome/ my local apostate church, / apostate pastors