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Patrick O'Brien's avatar

Thank you for mentioning Abbe de Nantes -- I will have to look over old issues of his Catholic Counter Revolution newsletters. The Abbe was not a sede-vacantist, refused to throw in his lot with Archbishop Lefebvre, and for years honored his bishop's suspension of him by not saying Mass. Tot homines, quot sententiae. In such confusing times, it is very difficult to throw stones at anyone -- well, maybe not at someone like Paul VI.

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John Hochstedt's avatar

On reading “Work of Human Hands” it became clear that Montini guided the abolition of the Mass and the creation of a memorial meal service,only belatedly stapling a couple of passages into the GIRM as if of course he believed the Mass is really a sacrifice in which Christ is offered to the Father, he just forgot to say it like that. Whoops! Then he fed the cover story to Fr Bouyer that he was just following what Bugnini was telling him about the instructions of the commission. It’s a transparent lie but one which still functions as cover for the “Paul 6 was truly Catholic, he was just fooled and had bad advisors” stuff.

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Voco Veritas's avatar

Work of Human hands is a book all faithful Catholics should read. God Bless you Fr Cekada.

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C2LT3's avatar

In 1958, Saul Alinsky wrote to Jacques Maritain: “I had three wonderful meetings with Montini and I am sure that you have heard from him since.” Alinsky later wrote to George Shuster two days before the papal conclave that elected John XXIII: “No, I don’t know who the next Pope will be, but if it’s to be Montini, the drinks will be on me for years to come.” P. David Finks, The Radical Vision of Saul Alinsky (New York: Paulist Press, 1984), p. 114.

Case closed.

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S.D. Wright's avatar

Shocking stuff!

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S.D. Wright's avatar

Abbé de Nantes was a flawed genius. In the early stages, he was more genius, but became more flawed as time went on, unfortunately.

Did you see the write-up of the CRC in the article?

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Patrick O'Brien's avatar

One of the Abbe's issues about 25 years ago featured the much younger Archbishop Bergoglio, whom he saw as a future Pius X. You missed on that speculation, Abbe!

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S.D. Wright's avatar

Yes, I first encountered the CRC in real life in France in the early days of Bergoglio. Their attitude caused a lot of personal problems for me, I must say. Eventually they got over it but luckily managed to avoid admitting they were wrong!

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Patrick O'Brien's avatar

The Abbe did the first great work on Medjugorje, revealing how goofy it is -- now in its 44th year.

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John Hochstedt's avatar

It is sadly comical to see people who profess to be Catholics going along with the canonization of Montini, who would sometimes say or publish some Catholic or Catholic-seeming things while enthusiastically wrecking the Church & the Faith, and would then say how mystified he was about the collapse in vocations and the wholesale abandonment of priesthood and religious life by the tens of thousands.

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S.D. Wright's avatar

It's almost as if Pope St Pius X was right!

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John Hochstedt's avatar

To which the Novusite response is https://youtu.be/z8wvtEKfLwg?si=ltgapRUIRTWecaJX

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S.D. Wright's avatar

Love it!

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John Lewis's avatar

What did Paul VI mean by universal democracy? The UN is an organisation founded by marxists so what was he really saying?

“In Critical Social Justice, as with all Marxism, democracy is an organizational principle for society that exists only when all citizens are equal, i.e., under Communism. Like in all other established uses of the word, democracy represents a system of government where the people contribute to the governance through voting, petitioning, and speech (see also, free speech), but unlike other established uses of the term, Marxist Theories, like Woke Marxism, understand the concept differently in different social contexts. Specifically, if there are any differences in the social, political, or material standing (positionality) of different citizens, then democracy is not “true” for Marxists.

The rationale for this view is simple. If one has more resources, money, or privilege than another citizen, then one also has greater capacity to influence the democratic process, through influence or otherwise. The lack of total equity therefore “unlevels” the playing field, advantaging some over others. Thus, while in a democratic republic like the United States, each individual citizen might be able to show up and cast one vote, just like any other, in elections or on ballot measures, this is a false “bourgeois” form of democracy because of the social system (capitalism, liberalism) it is embedded within. Marxists generally believe bourgeois forms of democracy, like the allegedly “white supremacist” democracy Critical Race Theory identifies in the United States (see also, colorblind, equality, meritocracy, and individualism), only serve to reproduce the existing system while blocking transformative, radical, and revolutionary change.

Instead, Marxists of all types advocate for a “true” democracy (or an “ideal” democracy) in which all citizens are completely equals before participating in the democratic process. This, they insist, is only possible under Communism, the stateless, classless society wherein producing equitable outcomes (Socialism) is spontaneously the will of the people, i.e., of “Socialist Man” (see also, New Soviet Man). In a Communist Utopian society, all decisions will be made by all by this kind of democratic process, although that is also not true because political decision-making will be superfluous. According to the Marxists, such votes will not even be necessary because no majority would ever overrule any minority (because everyone is “Socialist Man” and sees these political matters identically), and democracy, like all forms of government, will have withered away. It is not known how any of this will work, but it will be just and democratic.

Because Karl Marx outlined a historicist progression of History through six stages, the last two of which are Socialism (state-administered equity) that slowly becomes Communism, Marxists offer an intermediate form of quasi-“true” democracy under the Dictatorship of the Proletariat that controls and manages the state as a literal one-party dictatorship under Socialist organization. This “proletarian democracy,” as Vladimir Lenin called it is a proxy “ideal” democracy given the necessary dialectical constraints of Socialism. It is democracy by and for the class-conscious (or critical-conscious) proletariat, who are the only true citizens with voting rights in Socialism, since everyone else is unqualified due to their affliction with false consciousness and ideological willful ignorance. In other words, it is a “democracy” in which only fully committed members of the Party can participate. (The Marxist faith maintains that when society is guided by the conscious—those who have accepted and adhere to Marxist Theory—it will progress toward its intended and purposed end of Communism, but not otherwise.)”

Woke Marxists, though they tend not to say so directly, would view democracy similarly. It will not exist until we have “justice,” which is the neo-Marxist analogue of Communism, but it can be approximated under “equity” by, say, only extending full citizenship and suffrage to antiracists (mutatis mutandis for other dimensions of Identity Marxist thought, like gender studies, feminism, and Queer Theory). “Deplorables” (see also, conservative) need not be politically enfranchised, because that would maintain the status quo. This, for example, is part of why Ibram X. Kendi suggests that there be a Constitutionally mandated “Department of Antiracism” that has authority to “preclear all local, state, and federal public policy,” and more, so that the will of the “deplorable” (“racist”) voter is effectively erased. One should think of these things every time they hear the contemporary American Democratic Party talk about “our democracy.”

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-democracy/

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Voco Veritas's avatar

"Naturalism" or earth worship is heresy. So much for PP VI.

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Sonia's avatar

The snake Montini ('the monster' according to Roman laity of his day) P6 hall is there for all to see. An architectural encapsulation of hatred of God and man. Brutalism hates the souls of those who occupy its spaces.

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S.D. Wright's avatar

He couldn’t have been much clearer.

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Mike Rizzio's avatar

The 'soft underbelly' of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church is her social teaching on 'love.' If this one word is hijacked, as it was in 1963-4 (Beatle invasion) then one can appreciate the ease by which the Church could bow to the universal will of man.

The battle for ideological dominance does not stop it just assumes different forms.

Global anything, save for the global Kingship of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, God the Son, the Prince of Peace is folly for HE is the only answer. He holds the "whole world in His hands."

Jews need to change and accept Him, on His terms not a rebranding, a Messianic hybrid.

Muslims must do the same.

Hindus,

Atheists,...all of us.

Only then would we stand a [non] fighting chance.

Now with AI and drone weaponry, we are beyond fixing this through merely human means.

That's why a close read of Rev. 10-11:15 is so important.

If we aren't there, right now, with Our Lord, the veiled Messenger with two feet in contact with the world, swearing an oath. Waiting for us to call out to Him SAVE US!

Please SAVE US!

That 7th Trumpet, when it is ordered by the Father, ends it all! That's All Folks! There is time no longer, AND the mystery is complete, i.e., fully revealed. Heaven is made visible and Our Lady is already there.

Think of Rev. 12 as 12:00, midnight in the Cinderella fairy tale.

The book is shaped like an A frame with parallel rungs leading up to the apex. That apex is the Ch. 11-12 divide.

Illuminate our consciences Lord

Give us time to CHOOSE YOU.

Come and save us from the chastisement.

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