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Rufino Ty's avatar

I have two points on this article.

1) No one is perfect. By analogy, will you hold a man responsible for his indiscretion in his youth? Will you hold the Bishop of his understanding at that time now being the Pope? Our understanding grows with time. This was true with Jesus too.

Luke 2:52

And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.

2) Does physical death have greater importance over spiritual death?

If yes, then our physical life has greater importance than spiritual life. Yet spiritual death was the punishment for Adam’s disobedience to God.

So, is it wrong to impose physical death on crimes that threaten the existence of society?

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S.D. Wright's avatar

These comments were made in 2021, and have been reaffirmed since several times. If Prevost gives some reason for thinking that he doesn't still hold them, then we can re-evaluate.

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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

He's now 69 years old. When do the teenage years end in the post conciliar world?

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Rufino Ty's avatar

You missed the point of the analogy.

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Rufino Ty's avatar

Didn’t Peter denied Jesus three times?

If anyone while he was not yet the Pope as Peter was, made a boo boo (if indeed he did ) does that mean he should not be Pope?

What was it again what Pope Francis said that reverberated around the world when he was asked on the plane about an issue of the day?

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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

The Holy Ghost had not yet descended at Pentecost. A prelate has received the sacrament of confirmation as well as Holy Orders and consecration to the episcopate. This is in addition to any time in seminary and pontifical colleges.

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Rufino Ty's avatar

Exactly!

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John Lewis's avatar

Your analogy isn’t relevant. The Church teaches contrary to it: https://www.wmreview.org/p/excuse-error

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Rufino Ty's avatar

You missed the point of the analogy, which was amplified by a quote from the Bible. Luke 2:52And Jesus increased in wisdom andin stature and in favor with God andman.

Human beings are not static beings. They develop and grow and change according to one’s choice of direction.

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S.D. Wright's avatar

OK, I didn't miss that. I said that if we had any reason for thinking this had happened for Prevost, it could be relevant; but in the absence of any reason or evidence, why would this be relevant?

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Rufino Ty's avatar

Examine your heart for the motive why you brought up this issue on Leo XIV when he was a bishop. There you will find the answer to your question, not from me.

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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

The Holy Ghost had not yet descended at Pentecost. A prelate has received the sacrament of confirmation as well as Holy Orders and consecration to the episcopate. This is in addition to any time in seminary and pontifical colleges.

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